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Old Jun 27, 2011, 10:02 PM
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Looking for something that flies like Moth 48 but easier to build

Hi all,

I have a Parkzone Radian right now and I'm looking for something faster, more aerobatic, and that handles heavier wind.

I think the Moth 48 looks perfect, but it looks like a PITA to build. I've never built a kit of any sort and it looks like the Moth needs to be put together perfectly in order to fly well.

Is there anything else out there that is similar to the Moth (in terms of flight characteristics) but is easier to build or come almost ready to fly?

It doesn't have to be just like the moth, but something similar. I've looked into Zagi wings and it seems like they are a lot slower in comparison.

Any advice? I may try to find a used Moth...
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Old Jun 27, 2011, 10:13 PM
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NCFM Bluto
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1434095
or an RC soaring Sawtooth
http://rcsoaringcommunities.co.nz/vi...p?f=258&t=1622
Te Mata Peak slope soaring (1 min 51 sec)
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Old Jun 27, 2011, 10:53 PM
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Windrider Bat is pretty easy to build. Just replace that funky chicken feet fins with a single center fin. Even if you build it totally stock, it will fly well, or you can modify the heck out of it and really build a ripper.

http://www.windrider.com.hk/products...Bat_spec_a.jpg

There are many threads about modifying the bat on rcg.

Adrian
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Old Jun 27, 2011, 11:07 PM
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Stevo75,

The Moth 48 ships well with a removal fin, so I'd suggest you either search a good used one or have someone build one for you to match your local flying conditions.

Good luck
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Old Jun 27, 2011, 11:15 PM
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What's wrong with learning how to build? If you decide to stick with slope soaring, you will quickly learn that building is not really optional... which is a good thing, IMHO...

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Old Jun 27, 2011, 11:33 PM
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You could also try the Halfbad, as a good first build
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Old Jun 27, 2011, 11:41 PM
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What's wrong with learning how to build? If you decide to stick with slope soaring, you will quickly learn that building is not really optional... which is a good thing, IMHO...

Steve
FACT! You will soon learn what we already know...SLOPE is an acronym:

Smashed
Lost
Or
Pulverized
Eventually

Learn it. Deal with it.

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Old Jun 27, 2011, 11:44 PM
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Old Jun 27, 2011, 11:53 PM
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the Monarch seems to suit what your looking for, it's smaller so it doesn't take as much time and some steps can be done for you.
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Old Jun 28, 2011, 12:11 AM
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whatever you choose as your first builds
dont pass over the moth.its not that bad a build and there are build logs
here to help.
and its great
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Old Jun 29, 2011, 12:20 AM
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I agree with Steve, ... Your going to have to learn how to build if you want to stay in the hobby. The more you learn to build, the better you understand your plane, ... it makes them easier to fly.

Just bite the bullet

Remember, ... if you built it, ... you can rebuild it, unless you know some secret on how not to crash them .

What goes up, ... will ALWAYS come down, so pull out the "Box-O-Scraps" or the wallet, ... you decide.
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Old Jun 29, 2011, 01:04 AM
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Yeah, I know that I'll need to learn to build anyway, but I don't want to bite off more than I can chew on my first build.

For example, with helicopters, I started off with a used one and then learned how to fix it part by part (as some part broke, etc.). Now I feel confident doing a heli build from scratch.

It looks like the Moth has really high tolerances that I'm not sure I could pull off on a first build. I've never done any sort of work with glue, taping, spray-on adhesive, cutting, sanding, and shaping foam etc. I'm not even sure what tools or equipment I would need. And I don't really have the best work-space in my condo here.

A lot of people have been recommending the Bee 2 (over on the Colorado Front Range Slopers forum). It's still a build, but it sounds a bit easier than the Moth.

Anyway, thanks for all the suggestions so far, I'll look into all of these. I'm open to any other ideas as well!
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Old Jun 29, 2011, 07:10 AM
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Well, take a look at the Weasel by Dreamflight. It is a bit smaller, but so much fun and acrobatic, and you can easily ballast it for more wind. Its a blast on big and small slopes, and it is very easy to build/assemble. Every sloper should have one in their planebag.
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Old Jun 29, 2011, 07:23 AM
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Love the Moth, I have two but I like the Bat for a very easy build. If you keep the Bat light it should fly in very light lift as well as the Moth but I feel that it can handle more weight better than the Moth to fly in stronger lift. Especially if you do the Predator mods. Check canuckengineering.com for the Bat and all the gear for stock or modded vereions, Andrew's in CO too!
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Old Jun 29, 2011, 07:42 AM
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The Moth looks complicated but is really no harder than another foamie. The instructions are excellent, very detailed and thats probably why it seems like more work. My 2c.
+ Weasel is very excellent.
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