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Old Oct 28, 2011, 11:12 AM
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That colour scheme would constitute camouflage here. Matches our typical "blue bird" skies. Yellow or, Bud's fave, pink work well.

Good point, that. My Breeze just about disappears when I'm flying it post-sunset...it's blue/grey/white...just the color of the sky 'round here after sunset. Sometimes I need the orange rx LED to orient...lol

Winter's clamping down already...gah...so not ready.
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Old Oct 28, 2011, 11:25 AM
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Just came across this Bud ...
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...&postcount=229

And it's made of Depron to boot so she won't be all floppy like the POS EPP Piaget/Yak

Bewwy interwesting gwasshopper .. hum dideley hum
That looks like a good little ship Meebz...I really like the neutral handling characteristics of F3P ships...such a pleasure to fly.

Of course, the wind is always going to be a factor.


When my Beast airframe cashes in I'm going to build up the micro Threlon methinks:

http://www.dwfoamies.com/index.php?o...k=1&Itemid=343
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Old Oct 28, 2011, 12:03 PM
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This sorta goes along with visibility...
I kind of like silver or white blades on my heli. It's easier to see the rotor disc.

I think about color schemes from time to time. It's really hard to find colours that don't disappear in some light condition or another. Yeah, I know SmartA...none of them work in the dark.....
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Old Oct 28, 2011, 05:13 PM
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This sorta goes along with visibility...
I kind of like silver or white blades on my heli. It's easier to see the rotor disc.

I think about color schemes from time to time. It's really hard to find colours that don't disappear in some light condition or another. Yeah, I know SmartA...none of them work in the dark.....
Bill
That's why I use a pretty standard setup of red fluoro tips on the top wing and yellow underneath on some of my harder-to-see airframes.

Can look a bit tacky, but I know which way I'm oriented as soon as I see the red. Some planes totally disappear on certain angles e.g. dusk flying or sunny overcast days. Lost a couple that way already - by the time I could see a profile, I was inverted and going away instead of right side up coming towards me, and I waved bye-bye as I totally lost control.

I'm (touch wood) a bit better at flying these days, so I can usually re-orient by subtle stick use if I'm still high enough to start with.

But the fluoro wing tips have saved me a few times now for sure...

BJ
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Old Oct 28, 2011, 06:24 PM
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I was thinking even more tacky...the whole side of the wings in their respective colours. I have thought seriously of painting my heli canopies half/half in highly contrasting colour.Rear a different and something for a nose in indicator....this is almost as complicated as the definitive answer, POV.
running/marker lights work pretty well, too.

regards,
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Old Oct 28, 2011, 06:32 PM
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Old Oct 29, 2011, 02:19 PM
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MMMMorning gents!

Something about this ad...makes me want to take some unknown gal shopping for handbags or something...

(nice legsezz, yum!)
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Old Oct 30, 2011, 05:51 AM
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Old Oct 30, 2011, 06:59 AM
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gorilla glue?...and if you mix it with enough water, it will make and expanding rigid foam.
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Old Oct 30, 2011, 08:11 AM
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Yah - Gorilla glue and other polyurethanes like Vise work with any foam (including the good ole 'surf board' brittle polystyrene stuff).

They form a nice strong bond - but all of them expand to some degree, which can be a desirable result. Like gap-filling. Gorilla/Vise advise you to wet/dampen the opposite surface to enhance the swelling/foaming effect.

Gorilla also have a 'fast set' glue on the market - goes on clear and dries white in around 10 mins. Full strength is overnight cure.

Gorilla also have a new 'rubberised' CA out on the market - apparently available at some Autobarn outlets here in Oz. Haven't used it myself, but I've heard it has an additive to make it flex a bit more than the usual CA (which can make quite brittle joints - moreso if you use a kicker).

If you intend to use any CA on foam, always use a test strip. Make sure it's pure unadulterated foam i.e. scratch away any paint etc so that you're actually testing it on a pure foam surface. If you don't, you might find that the CA starts eating the foam after it's too late Like... the area around the CA will start to cave in. Trust me - I wrecked a plane using it.

Bob Smith industries have a 'foam safe' CA out there that doesn't react with foam. But again, it tends to make brittle joints. And it's not quite as strong as standard CA.

Epoxies work well on some foams too - 2min, 5min 'Araldite' and derivatives etc. You can also get 15min, 30min, 60min and overnight. The longer the cure time, the stronger the join. Just watch the epoxies though - while they are 'foam safe', they tend not to bond real well on EPP foams.

I'm starting to use Gorilla/Vise polyurethanes (PU's) a lot more these days - keeping in mind that they swell up to 3 times their original amount. So, what I do, is use a modest amount of PU, then tape over the open areas of the join so that the 'swell' doesn't start squeezing out onto an open surface.

PU joins are very strong. I busted the wings off my Rare Bear again the other day - a CA join let go on the join itself. A Gorilla join broke about 3mm away from the join itself i.e the join survived, but the foam broke in a virgin area...

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Old Oct 30, 2011, 09:18 AM
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What glue do people use on their foamies for repairs ??

I've been using hot glue but it sets to fast and is too sticky to be able to do a real nice clean (invisible) join.

I've got both EPP and Depron planes on the way so something that is good for both would be nice.
For EPP i use UHU-POR and CA(not foam-safe)+ Kicker
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Old Oct 30, 2011, 10:57 AM
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What glue do people use on their foamies for repairs ??

I've been using hot glue but it sets to fast and is too sticky to be able to do a real nice clean (invisible) join.

I've got both EPP and Depron planes on the way so something that is good for both would be nice.


For me it tends to be UHU Por on any kind of flexible foam...

Foam-safe CA on stiff foams (Depron, Cellpro etc.). Thin, med, or thick, depending on the fix/area.


The HK Ultimate's getting closer- fuse and wing assembly permanently mated, swervos in, motor/mount in and curing (UHU Por on airframe parts, 5min epoxy for m/m, a little CA for swervo mounting):
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Old Oct 30, 2011, 01:54 PM
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