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Old Nov 12, 2012, 12:06 PM
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OK,time to put my X on the switch and get used to it....is it best to put it on a click or momentary switch?
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Old Nov 12, 2012, 01:20 PM
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I prefer stationary switch but others use temp as well, its more like the way you feel better to fly
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Old Nov 12, 2012, 01:35 PM
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I don't have a great deal of experience. I put my Enigma on a momentary switch because the F5B guys "wouldn't let me" do it any other way (Right Eric?).

So that's how I set up the X as well.

It was easier to get used to than I expected.

On of the up sides is that it frees up your throttle to be a true Landing Mode flap/crow stick.
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Old Nov 12, 2012, 02:18 PM
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What could happen if throttlestick is used, like 40% power, 2-3 seconds, then hit 100%, I know the esc is getting hotter, but would really 2-3 seconds make it burn up ?
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Old Nov 12, 2012, 02:39 PM
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What could happen if throttlestick is used, like 40% power, 2-3 seconds, then hit 100%, I know the esc is getting hotter, but would really 2-3 seconds make it burn up ?
That sounds like what Voodoo was doing.

If you have a 200A setup, and you have a 100A ESC, then you should be able to run at 50% throttle without issue, right? The problem is when you're at 75%, the FETs have to dissipate a great deal more power than they do when at WOT. It may not make sense, but the easiest condition for the FET's is WOT.

My setup draws 160A, and I'm using a CC125, so I doubt I'd have much issue using the throttle.

But it's nice having the throttle stick setup for Landing mode so I have full variable flaps/crow.
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Old Nov 12, 2012, 03:19 PM
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Sebbe,

On my radiant I use a 50% mix so that when i hit the throttle on launch I have only ~half the power. That's a 260-270 amp draw on a 200amp $20 esc and it lives. You will be fine using half throttle to launch in my opinion.

Disclaimer: I burnt up my X esc on the weekend
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Old Nov 12, 2012, 03:25 PM
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Folks just get used to it. I threw my "former" 2Kw 2,5kg ship myself for maidenflight. Full throttle and off she goes. This happens so fast you won't have time to think. Look at drices throw bam and off she goes. No deal at all.

PS: If you still look for a cheapo alternative for the ICE 100 lite look at this : http://www.himodel.com/electric/ICE_...0A-ICE_SB.html
Gert Jan tested it to about 300A Peak and it held up. It's kinda lightweight and small give it a shot before waisting money on Kontronik ESC's
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Old Nov 12, 2012, 03:34 PM
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I have to agree with TZ. I had far more fear than was justified.

The whole launch was a complete non-issue, and I'm on a switch with 100% WOT.
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Old Nov 12, 2012, 03:51 PM
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The only thing which distracted me was the screaming noise of that retarded 16x16S. I changed that because this screws generates more noise then vertical acceleration and speed
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Old Nov 12, 2012, 09:24 PM
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In my experience the HiModel ICE 100's and 150's are Ok if you don't need a functioning brake. If you need a brake, buy something else.
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Old Nov 12, 2012, 11:39 PM
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The only thing which distracted me was the screaming noise of that retarded 16x16S. I changed that because this screws generates more noise then vertical acceleration and speed
....on launches ,yes.But just undesquared props are good to launch with.
You have to keep plane at proper speed to make this "retarded" prop working .
16x16S 16x17S my favorite props of all times.
Tzeentech,I wonder ,what prop You prefer instead?
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Old Nov 13, 2012, 12:50 AM
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Yuri,is there any flying going on in the Portland area during December? I will be up and over there for the Holidays,wondering if I should bring my X for the 2,800 mile trip
HELLO YURI ! DO YOU NOT SEE THIS POST !?!?!? I will be in your neck of da hood soon.
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Old Nov 13, 2012, 12:55 AM
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HELLO YURI ! DO YOU NOT SEE THIS POST !?!?!? I will be in your neck of da hood soon.
Just stop in LA. Lots more sun anyway

Bill
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Old Nov 13, 2012, 12:59 AM
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Just stop in LA. Lots more sun anyway

Bill
Or San Diego, We'll do formation X-ing.
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Old Nov 13, 2012, 06:33 AM
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Peter M: At special request Himodel can supply the ICE's with different software for a harder brake. GJVO used it in an F5F plane at ~3kw, 17.5x23 prop and no issues, good brake.

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