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Old Jun 07, 2011, 02:58 PM
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LiFe batteries

I am looking at batteries for a small parkflyer I am building. LiFe seems to be the best option as it seems to be much more stable than LiPO. I was wondering if anyone could give me advice on brands of ESC's that accept LiFe chemistry.

Thanks alot. Will
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Old Jun 07, 2011, 03:38 PM
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which life batteries are you purchasing?
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Old Jun 07, 2011, 08:10 PM
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http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXAAGM&P=0

This is the one i am looking at. Im hoping that its not too heavy
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Old Jun 07, 2011, 10:59 PM
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http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXAAGM&P=0

This is the one i am looking at. Im hoping that its not too heavy
you need more than that to lift a plane off ground, that is the cheap copy of the A123 cells able to handle max. 1C discharge, and a 0.5C charge rate.
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Old Jun 08, 2011, 01:18 AM
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A better option would be a 2S pack of 18650 A123 cells.
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Old Jun 08, 2011, 11:03 AM
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http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXYAS7&P=0
How about this one? it has a 10c discharge rate
oh and any recommendations on ESC's?
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Old Jun 08, 2011, 11:03 AM
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Most LiFe cells except the A123 brand may not have the output for power use. The one you linked to is for RX applications.

In addition there are only 2 A123 sizes, 2600 and 1100. The 2600 cells really need a 3# plus weight to be useful and the 1100 don't have the power/weight ratio to be all that good in smaller park fliers, say under a pound. I used them for awhile but seldom do now.

Just learn the rules for proper lipo care and you'll be fine.
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Old Jun 08, 2011, 11:12 AM
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thanks alot for your help

would this battery be the right start? again idk about weight
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Old Jun 08, 2011, 02:28 PM
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http://www.hobby-lobby.com/2_cell_7....33744_prd1.htm
actually this is probably more what i am looking for to power a 350 brushed motor and some servos
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Old Jun 08, 2011, 04:16 PM
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First link is another receiver (low power) battery. Not suitable for power.

2nd link is a lipo power battery. It may work depending on your actual application.....which is?
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Old Jun 08, 2011, 11:55 PM
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please reconsider lipos.. as of today, has higher power to weigh ratio, they're more readily available, convenient and price wise its cheap now a days..

if you follow the simple protocol of lipo safety, you will be in safe hand.. don't forget alot of consumer products that we uses today like your cellphones and laptop uses lipos instead of life/a123

check this link from another person who has fear of lipos
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1451239


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I am looking at batteries for a small parkflyer I am building. LiFe seems to be the best option as it seems to be much more stable than LiPO. I was wondering if anyone could give me advice on brands of ESC's that accept LiFe chemistry.

Thanks alot. Will
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Old Jun 09, 2011, 12:04 AM
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please reconsider lipos.. as of today, has higher power to weigh ratio, they're more readily available, convenient and price wise its cheap now a days..

if you follow the simple protocol of lipo safety, you will be in safe hand.. don't forget alot of consumer products that we uses today like your cellphones and laptop uses lipos instead of life/a123

check this link from another person who has fear of lipos
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1451239
Li-Po 110-150Wh/kg
Li-Fe (A123) 96-108Wh/kg

drawback is original A123 comes in cylindrical form, only huge 10-20Ah cells are prismatic.
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Old Jun 09, 2011, 03:20 PM
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There are many prismatic LiFePO4 cells but most are not really capable of the discharge rates claimed by them. A few example here

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...8&ParentCat=85

Back several years ago I tested many LiFePO4 cells / batteries and only the original A123 Systems ones were really suiable for high amp. outputs.


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Old Jun 11, 2011, 05:48 AM
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Hey Charles,
I am thinking about trying two of these LiFe batteries in series. They are rated at 30C. Also, they are very thin. What do you think? Our club (SMRCF) is about 75% electric and they like to try new batteries.
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Old Jun 11, 2011, 09:29 AM
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There have been several reports of horrible performance from Hobby King LiFe prismatic packs, especially when compared to an inexpensive lipoly. IMO, ordering those packs would be an exercise in frustration and futility but I would like to be proven wrong.

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