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Old May 26, 2011, 07:15 PM
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Video world record F3F

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World record F3F (1 min 23 sec)

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Old May 26, 2011, 08:14 PM
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Didn't see any F3F there.

I thought the world record was 27.xx?

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Old May 26, 2011, 08:59 PM
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No

F3F vid w/o any flying ...

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Old May 27, 2011, 03:33 AM
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The 27.xx was an excellent flight and a stunning time but there have also been times set by diving which have been pretty stunning.

WR (unofficial as it is) has to be under a standard set of rules that are easy to replicate in a fair way
In the Uk we have always said that WR's exclude Crow through starts, and for as long as I recall whenever the conditions have been good enough to potentially offer a WR time we have flown single rounds.
It may seem to be a small point and many who were there may say that no advantage was gained by the crow through start that the 27xx had, but that isn't the point.
If Crows starts are allowed then advantage can be gained very easily. WR attempts could be made by allowing the right pilot to have many goes, or fly around waiting until he "feels" the air before starting his run. The end result will be a devalued WR time.

To some extent this has already happened because of this 27xx time, following Inakis run there was a lot of confusion with some pilots believing it to be a record and others not.


For me Inakis is the true WR holder.

The 27.xx is a confusion that has devalued our sport. Although it is very interesting and as I said very well done - but we have restrictions such as max wind speed and min course length, 30sec max climb out , and no diving, all to make the sport as comparable to all around the world as possible.

For individual comps it matters not whether rules are changed, to suit the day, shorter course, longer climb outs what ever the competitors on that day agree on, it will be the same for all of them so as a competition thats fine, but having changed the rules the comp is no longer a "true" f3f that is able to be judged by others who were not there.
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Old May 27, 2011, 05:15 AM
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Thanks for clearing that up.

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Old May 27, 2011, 09:17 AM
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Where's the actual run??? I'll still go with Tims 27.
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Old May 27, 2011, 09:18 AM
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I thought that we were actually going to see the flight then !
I dipped out a day early on the welsh last year (Wasnt having fun !) and missed it.
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Is there a video of the 27.xx at all ?
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Old May 27, 2011, 09:37 AM
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any flight that starts with a crow through isn't an "official" f3f flight because it falls outside the rules as they pertain to "definition of an attempt". IIRC it is when the model leaves the helpers hands.

It's clearly not the same anyway, because it takes a few seconds, of your 30 seconds, to get to where a crowed model is from a hand launch. Things like diving and long climb outs are pretty clear I think.

I don't know much about the 27.45, it's a fast flight which ever way you look at it!
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Old May 27, 2011, 11:25 AM
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This flight; http://mksservo.digart039.com/joinus...il.php?idNo=37 must have been a crow through or downhill as well?

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Old May 27, 2011, 12:01 PM
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Was a downhill flight, about -180m from launch.

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Old May 27, 2011, 03:18 PM
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Still amazed that there are still no videos of any of these so-called WR's !
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Old May 28, 2011, 02:57 PM
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Was a downhill flight, about -180m from launch.

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As long as you are back up at start height within 5s, it is not a downhill.
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Old May 28, 2011, 04:07 PM
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As long as you are back up at start height within 5s, it is not a downhill.
I think it would be difficult to regain 180 metres (590ft) in 5 seconds at the end of a run.
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Old May 28, 2011, 05:50 PM
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On the video claim of this thread, its lame with bad music, nice shirt though.
This is a trifecta bad music, video that doesn't deliver on claim and off subject comments on thread.
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Old May 29, 2011, 07:15 AM
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It is a shame that no-one got the flight on Video, we were all just standing there with our jaws on the floor watching Inaki blitz the course. It was a combination of fantastic conditions (really nice thermal), super aggressive flying and balls the size of asteroids.
I think the aim of the video above is to act as a commemoration, not to show the run (obviously), I like it as it evokes memories of a fantastic day when I finally cracked the sub40 barrier.

It's a shame that there is disagreement on whether or not runs count as F3F records or not.
27 seconds with or without crowing through or landing the model yourself is still extremely quick, as is 29.

I was racing last weekend when a new fastest time by a British pilot was set at 30.80 seconds was set by Mark Redsell. For some reason, it did not seem as bonkers. I guess it was because it was a more flowing run that managed the speed rather than the bank and yank that Inaki did.
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