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Old May 26, 2011, 08:40 AM
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Its nice that is intended from the start up to be used also on fixed wing aircraft, so a magneto is not present? And the gps couldn't be used on this board right as was mentioned on the start of this thread?
There is no GPS support enabled in the CC firmware since GPS is useless w/o magnetometers on quads and helicopters. There is a forked development branch for CC GPS navigation on planes. And there are some positive results already. This probably will require some special firmware, but updating is as simple as 1-2-3 w/o any adapters, just using mini-USB cable and the GCS (on Windows, MAC OS X or Linux - all are well supported).

Regarding the growing CC up to the full Pro platform: we had no such intention, the CC just uses 95% of main project codebase and was grown from idea to the 1st flight in 2 months. But if someone is interested, there is a Flexi-port onboard, and add-ons like magnetometer/baro adapter can be designed and connected. Not a high priority task, though. But we have some ideas and the development is in progress.

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but the op cc is not only for multicopter as i understood, so its good that it is small. i wouldnt enlarge it,too but an adapter ring would be great.
Two days ago the CC made its first (as well as the OP platform at all) flybarless heli flight. See below how does it fit the 450-class heli frame. More details are available on the OpenPilot forum, you are welcome.
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Old May 26, 2011, 08:40 AM
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i got the board to test, here are my findings:


build:
i made an adapter board to adapt the op cc to the standart 45x45mm format.
see pics below.


setup:
it took a while till i found the gcs software. the homepage was a bit confusing at beginning.

its great that i dont need to upload any firmware or install drivers for the board.

setting up everything was easy. its great that u can choose the flight mode directly in the gcs.

the default values for the stabilization were not usable. i have set it up coarse following the setup guide. the guide is very good. http://wiki.openpilot.org/display/Do...ng++Multirotor

u should add a step after step3 http://wiki.openpilot.org/display/Do...+Started+Guide with tuning the stabilization http://wiki.openpilot.org/display/Do...ng++Multirotor

sometimes some values get lost sporadicly. i.e. i have set up the stabilization values and the values for the align correction of the board and after flying and reconecting sometimes the stabilization values were default or the align values were default.

statement from Ed:
We are hard at work on the issues you have mentioned, namely saving of some settings which had an issue (should be fixed in latest firmware) and a good packaging of the firmware for easy and foolproof upgrade procedure!


flying
the acro mode works good. the rate is a bit slow, i have to increase it. and do further tests.

the stable mode is the best i ever flew with. very good work guys. i can fly arround only using pitch and yaw. roll is stabilized perfectly.
thats also how i flew the stable mode in the videos.


conclusion

good:
- price
- easy setup
- no firmware/drivers needed
- flight mode setup direct in gcs
- good docu
- professional looking gui (best i saw so far)
- lots of options in gcs (u can set up everything; e.g. u can select the pinouts for every single motor)
- great stable mode


bad:
- default stabilzation values not usable
- non standart form factor for multicopters ( adapterboard needed)
- some values get lost sporadicly (see Ed's statement)

thats not all but these are the things that come to mind now the most.

all in all i think this project has a great future and the cc hardware is absolutly worth the money.


i saw that QA already posted the videos but for completeness i add them here to my report.

http://vimeo.com/24231568

http://vimeo.com/24234207

http://vimeo.com/24235678
Very good job Marcus!
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Old May 26, 2011, 08:47 AM
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Diskussion in Deutsch. - > http://forum.xufo.net/bb/viewtopic.php?t=13457

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Old May 26, 2011, 09:15 AM
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Isn't a baro already present on the board or did I missread...So in the future we could maybe expect an add-on board with gps+baro to use with the same board..Or maybe a diy solution, but code would be available right?

Can you provide us a link of the platform being used on a fixed wing airplane...
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Old May 26, 2011, 09:34 AM
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for what i understand the pro board will be a totally new board not an add on.
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Old May 26, 2011, 09:41 AM
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for what i understand the pro board will be a totally new board not an add on.
sounds correct.
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Old May 26, 2011, 12:21 PM
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Very good job Marcus!
thanks



here are some suggestions for a simple adapter ring....

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Old May 26, 2011, 12:35 PM
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here are some suggestions for a simple adapter ring....
Hallo warthox,

wie wäre es materialspaarender

PCB 50x50mm mit 8x innere befestigungspunkte.

würde gut hineinpassen.
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Old May 26, 2011, 12:53 PM
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Hallo warthox,

wie wäre es materialspaarender

PCB 50x50mm mit 8x innere befestigungspunkte.

würde gut hineinpassen.
naja dann brauchst du aber 2 verschiedene. einmal für + mode und einmal für x mode. mit den 8 löchern außen ist der ring universell
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naja dann brauchst du aber 2 verschiedene. einmal für + mode und einmal für x mode. mit den 8 löchern außen ist der ring universell
You don't need two different mounts for "+" and "x" modes - in the GCS you can specify an angle for the board installation. In fact, you can mount the board on it's edge, upside down, etc.
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Old May 26, 2011, 01:24 PM
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You don't need two different mounts for "+" and "x" modes - in the GCS you can specify an angle for the board installation. In fact, you can mount the board on it's edge, upside down, etc.

oh yes your right
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Old May 26, 2011, 01:28 PM
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Clever stuff, this OpenPilot
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Old May 26, 2011, 01:28 PM
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naja dann brauchst du aber 2 verschiedene. einmal für + mode und einmal für x mode. mit den 8 löchern außen ist der ring universell
es ist doch egal, welchen kreis du versetzt.

den äusseren, oder eben den inneren.
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Old May 26, 2011, 02:00 PM
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Thanks QA and Warthox for bringing this back into the light as I had missed all the developements and this is looking like a nice mature product and good support, and the developers deserver to have the hard work recognised.

Looking forward to June .

Mike.
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