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Old Nov 06, 2011, 01:18 AM
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Okay, So I got male to male servo plugs finally... I went to test my board with 3 servos and 1 more but when I plug it nothing happens, the led just starts blinking and thats it. I have no control and the controls dont move at all.
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Old Nov 06, 2011, 06:00 AM
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Hi kidz.
Will be easier for all to help if you can always provides the details like:
Config: tri? Quad + or quad X etc
Firmware: KK classic? XX KR? XXController etc
Picture of all your connection
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Old Nov 06, 2011, 07:54 AM
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Could someone please tell me how a KK Black board can arm itself without a reciver hooked up to it. It had set on the bench for well over an hour with the battery plugged up (MY BAD) and no rx hooked up. But the light was out. And much to my surprise and guess in the room she armed herself and took to much havic and distruction not joking it was not funny at the moment she trashed herself and a wall and some paperwork. Along with making us almost shs ourselves. Do I have GHOST or what. The paint stick quad is now splinters.
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Old Nov 06, 2011, 10:58 AM
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Could someone please tell me how a KK Black board can arm itself without a reciver hooked up to it. It had set on the bench for well over an hour with the battery plugged up (MY BAD) and no rx hooked up. But the light was out. And much to my surprise and guess in the room she armed herself and took to much havoc and destruction not joking it was not funny at the moment she trashed herself and a wall and some paperwork. Along with making us almost shs ourselves. Do I have GHOST or what. The paint stick quad is now splinters.
Yes, they can arm themselves - it depends on what the stick arming combination is.
It normally requires low Collective, so it it does arm, it shouldn't normally fly away...
however....
since the Rx Inputs are floating, anything can happen and they can easily pick up spurious electrical signals which could be interpreted as say: Max Collective !!

I do not recommend powering up a copter with propellers on but no receiver - its asking for trouble ...
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Old Nov 06, 2011, 11:25 AM
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I didn't order the LCD when I purchased one of these boards, but accidentally selected a software version that needs the LCD to adjust parameters. Is there a tutorial anywhere that can explain how to flash the board with a different software using one of these:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/USBtinyISP...item27beda2bf6

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LG
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Old Nov 06, 2011, 11:54 AM
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Hi Folks

I have a question regarding the KK+ board with the use of the smartLCD.

I connected the board like it is shown @ multiRC:

LCD KK Plus
RX ------> 9
5V ------> 2
Ground ------> 10

After switching the board on (with connected RX), I see these two screens:

1) Smart LCD pro Ver 3.0f

2) init OK baud 9600 8in1

Each screnn is 1 Sec activ, and after this I just can see the backlight. Can somenone tell me if this is right? How can I access the menu?

As multiRC says, the Baudratw with 9600 is ok. Also I can see the Menü structur here:

http://www.multircshop.com/site/banners/...D_Menu.pdf

But I have no idea how to access the menu or how I navigate throgh this? Can someone please help me?

Is there anywhere a real manual from th KK+ board?

Thank from GER,
Michael
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Old Nov 06, 2011, 04:57 PM
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Hi Folks

I have a question regarding the KK+ board with the use of the smartLCD.
<snip>

But I have no idea how to access the menu or how I navigate throgh this? Can someone please help me?

Is there anywhere a real manual from the KK+ board?

Thank from GER,
Michael
After the Baudrate screen, you should be seeing:
Copter: QUAD+ (<= or whatever type firmware you have).

If thats not appearing, there is a problem.
Is the LED flashing at 5 second intervals ?
Does the LED flash once when you move TxYaw left or Right ?
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Old Nov 06, 2011, 09:17 PM
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Hi Michael
Can you show a picture of your setup? Maybe easier to find out the issue that way.

If you don't see the greeting message:
XXController by Mike Barton follow by the display of your loaded mixer (quad or tri or hex etc), may need to check all the cable connection. Including the LCD.
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Old Nov 07, 2011, 12:46 AM
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Just got my KK Multicopter 5.5e. Couple questions...

Is there a manual for this board? If I could find it I probably wouldn't have to ask the rest of these questions

Should I get the LCD? Are there any features that require it?

How many amps can I push through the integrated power distribution bus?

Is it necessary to re-orient the board when changing from + to X configuration? i.e. rotate 45 degrees to keep it pointed "forward"...

Which + and X firmwares should I be using? I plan on both 1st person aerial videography and 3rd person acrobatics.

Is there a collection/comparison of the common firmwares available somewhere?

Attached is a screencap of the frame I am designing. Uses 10mm Carbon Fiber square booms from HK. I'll 3D print the center and motor mounts.

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Old Nov 07, 2011, 02:12 AM
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re: a lot of Q

hello ,

Is there a manual for this board? If I could find it I probably wouldn't have to ask the rest of these questions
//Daniel make a lot of info on page 1.


Should I get the LCD? Are there any features that require it?
// if u use KR fireware, DO NOT need SmartLCD.
// if u use mike Firware, to get some useful feature( like . LVA, LED , PID , misc... ) Please get one LCD.


How many amps can I push through the integrated power distribution bus?
// >40A Total, For quad 10A enough for hover flying.
// u can use 2s 3s 4s ,even high voltage when u install Recom DCDC model.
// normally, we use 3s, bec(5v) of ESC for powering KK PLUS.

Is it necessary to re-orient the board when changing from + to X configuration? i.e. rotate 45 degrees to keep it pointed "forward"...
// Yes, It is necessary. when changing from + to X .

Which + and X firmwares should I be using? I plan on both 1st person aerial videography and 3rd person acrobatics.
// X is better for FPV. + is better for beginner.

Is there a collection/comparison of the common firmwares available somewhere?
// yes, Daniel make big effort to collect firewares on his web store.
// www.multircshop.com

Attached is a screencap of the frame I am designing. Uses 10mm Carbon Fiber square booms from HK. I'll 3D print the center and motor mounts.
// looks good!

//PS : Have a good flying. (english is not my native language)
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Old Nov 07, 2011, 02:24 AM
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Thanks AllCopter,

Basically, it is hard to have a manual as at least we have three firmware in the market that runs on KK. That is why i point that to each of the source for the manual of each firmware.

For the XXController that uses LCD, I do have the readme file in download page
For the KK firmware, it is within the firmware source code or with the link that I setup in page one or the webstore
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Old Nov 07, 2011, 04:57 AM
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Thank you fpr your answers!

Quote:
Hi Michael
Can you show a picture of your setup? Maybe easier to find out the issue that way.

If you don't see the greeting message:
XXController by Mike Barton follow by the display of your loaded mixer (quad or tri or hex etc), may need to check all the cable connection. Including the LCD.
Sure! Here it is:



The Quad fyes pretty good out of the box (emax 2822, HK SS 20A and Hitec Optima 6), but I'm looking forward to tune a bit.



Quote:
Should I get the LCD? Are there any features that require it?
// if u use KR fireware, DO NOT need SmartLCD.
// if u use mike Firware, to get some useful feature( like . LVA, LED , PID , misc... ) Please get one LCD.
OhOh, when I check my order it says:

KK Plus V5.5d Multicopter controller
>> - Flash Firmware Option: XXControl_KR v2 Quad +
>> - USB Linker Bundle:: USB Linker for KK+ Flash KKPlus V5.5d

So the LCD won't work with this fimrware, right?



Quote:
Is there a manual for this board? If I could find it I probably wouldn't have to ask the rest of these questions
//Daniel make a lot of info on page 1.
I cannot really find a manual :-(

BR,
Michael
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Old Nov 07, 2011, 06:30 AM
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Hi. The firmware is XXController KR so it is not working with LCD.

The setup manual for krfirmware is www.kkmulticopter.kr/index.html?modea=manualor
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Old Nov 07, 2011, 08:00 AM
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dt8666

Thank you for your supprt. Maybe you can tell me which firmware is the best for me:
-I'm flying RC for 6 years
-I owned a X-Ufo with X3D board for 1/2 year
-I want to train myself and start equip my copter with light FPV system soon
-I like an easy way to setup the board
-I own a smart LCD
-Iloocking forward to have a stable platform an donÄ't want to fly acro

A recommendation is very welcome! Thank you!!!

Beside this, is it possible that the flash device

http://www.multircshop.com/site/inde...product_id=603

and the KKplus tool (1.23) is not working good with Win7 64bit?

BR,
Mike
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Old Nov 07, 2011, 09:13 AM
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dt8666

Thank you for your supprt. Maybe you can tell me which firmware is the best for me:
-I'm flying RC for 6 years
-I owned a X-Ufo with X3D board for 1/2 year
-I want to train myself and start equip my copter with light FPV system soon
-I like an easy way to setup the board
-I own a smart LCD
-Iloocking forward to have a stable platform an donÄ't want to fly acro

A recommendation is very welcome! Thank you!!!

Beside this, is it possible that the flash device

http://www.multircshop.com/site/inde...product_id=603

and the KKplus tool (1.23) is not working good with Win7 64bit?

BR,
Mike
Hi Mike,
if you already have a LCD module, you may like to try the 1.5e code from Mike Barton:

If you fly Quad with + mode:
http://www.multircshop.com/site/bann...D+_M168_EN.hex

If you fly Quad with X mode:
http://www.multircshop.com/site/bann...DX_M168_EN.hex

Also please look at the readme file as it tells how to setup the motor and also the steps needed to setup the firmware
http://www.multircshop.com/site/bann...e_ReadmeV2.txt


As for the question in Win7 64-bit, I am running Win7 64-bit on my notebook and no issue. Just make sure you loaded the driver as suggested and also to ensure you have your com port number ready for the flashtool

Hope this helps.
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