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Old May 18, 2011, 11:26 AM
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DDT back in production: S Africans decline to suffer and die in UNEP-approved manner

Finally someone willing to tell the bourgeouis enviros of the west they're sick of dying so the greeniacs can feel self satisified about caring.

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This week’s UN Environment Program meeting on insecticide use will surely be enlivened by the Southern African Development Community’s recent decision to start producing DDT to combat malarial mosquitoes.

GENEVA—Two weeks ago the Southern African Development Community (SADC), a bloc of 15 African nations, said it would begin producing the insecticide DDT to combat malarial mosquitoes. This is a necessary reaction to damage caused by the illogical, misguided, and often untruthful campaign against DDT run by the United Nations Environment Program (UNEP). This disagreement is set to enliven the UNEP meeting on insecticide use this week in Geneva.

For the past 15 years SADC, ably supported by Western donors and notably the United States, has significantly reduced the prevalence of malaria. It has done this by deploying medicines to treat patients and bed nets to protect children. But, overwhelmingly, the success is due to indoor insecticide spraying. Several insecticides have been used, but the cheapest, most effective, and most widely deployed insecticide across the region is DDT.

Malaria kills hundreds of thousands of children across Africa, and tens of millions who survive are left with impaired learning due to the disease. It is difficult to overestimate the importance of combating malaria.


DDT production and use to resume And it only took how many tens of millions dead?
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Old May 18, 2011, 11:46 AM
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I thought DDT only deterred the critters? Does it actually kill them?
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Old May 18, 2011, 11:50 AM
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Oh yes, it kills them dead. Very effectively. And leaves humans pretty much alone. DDT is basically a wonder compound that has been impugned as few others have. Now that how the green machines actual methods have come into full view, you can imagine how it went 40 years ago when people may have actually believed they were honest, rational, or were in possession of those things callled scruples.
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Old May 18, 2011, 11:50 AM
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DDT

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Old May 18, 2011, 11:52 AM
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cool thanks.. I didnt realize that. Actually now that I think about it I think I may have been confusing DDT with DEET.
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Old May 18, 2011, 12:02 PM
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If DEET had the misfortune of being discovered now, we'd never have gotten to use that either.
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Old May 18, 2011, 01:58 PM
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It seems DDT was reinstated in S. Africa back in 2001 after a five year trial with alternative pesticides.



What the government of S. Africa says about malaria.
What Wiki says about DDT.

But hey, nice bash against those "bourgeouis enviros" causing tens of millions of deaths. It almost had a ring of truthy to it.
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Old May 18, 2011, 02:06 PM
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He's right. Silent Spring launched the enviro-nazi movement and the millions of deaths due to malaria was just breaking a few eggs to make the green omelet.
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Old May 18, 2011, 02:11 PM
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He's right. Silent Spring launched the enviro-nazi movement and the millions of deaths due to malaria was just breaking a few eggs to make the green omelet.
That is correct. Millions have been sacrificed by order of green.
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Old May 18, 2011, 02:11 PM
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From the wiki DDT Article:

"the most striking feature of the claim against Carson (Silent Spring author) is the ease with which it can be refuted."
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Old May 18, 2011, 02:14 PM
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That is correct. Millions have been sacrificed by order of green.
South Africa stopped using DDT for 5 yrs. Read the chart on their malaria deaths. Not even the most creative application of new math will get you to 'millions'.
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Old May 18, 2011, 02:20 PM
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The region of those afflicted by the ban is far larger than sa.
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Old May 18, 2011, 02:25 PM
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Uh huh. Good luck proving the 10s of millions of deaths.
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Old May 18, 2011, 02:27 PM
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Abundant scientific evidence supporting the safety and importance of DDT was presented during seven months of testimony before the newly formed EPA in 1971. The presiding judge ruled unequivocally against a ban. But the public furor against DDT--fueled by Silent Spring and the growing environmental movement--was so great that a ban was imposed anyway. The EPA administrator, who hadn’t even bothered to attend the hearings, overruled his own judge and imposed the ban in defiance of the facts and evidence. And the 1972 ban in the United States led to an effective worldwide ban, as countries dependent on U.S.-funded aid agencies curtailed their DDT use to comply with those agencies’ demands.

So if scientific facts are not what has driven the furor against DDT, what has? Estimates put today’s malaria incidence worldwide at around 300 million cases, with a million deaths every year. If this enormous toll of human suffering and death is preventable, why do environmentalists--who profess to be the defenders of life--continue to press for a global DDT ban?

The answer is that environmental ideology values an untouched environment above human life. The root of the opposition to DDT is not science but the environmentalist moral premise that it is wrong for man to “tamper” with nature.

The large-scale eradication of disease-carrying insects epitomizes the control of nature by man. This is DDT’s sin. To Carson and the environmentalists she inspired, “the ‘control of nature’ is a phrase conceived in arrogance, born of the Neanderthal age of biology and philosophy.” Nature, they hold, is intrinsically valuable and must be kept free from human interference.

On this environmentalist premise the proper attitude to nature is not to seek to improve it for human benefit, but to show “humility” before its “vast forces” and leave it alone. We should seek, Carson wrote, not to eliminate malarial mosquitoes with pesticides, but to find instead “a reasonable accommodation between the insect hordes and ourselves.” If the untouched, “natural” state is one in which millions contract deadly diseases, so be it.

Carson’s current heirs agree. Earth First! founder Dave Foreman writes: “Ours is an ecological perspective that views Earth as a community and recognizes such apparent enemies as ‘disease’ (e.g., malaria) and ‘pests’ (e.g., mosquitoes) not as manifestations of evil to be overcome but rather as vital and necessary components of a complex and vibrant biosphere.”

In the few minutes it has taken you to read this article, over a thousand people have contracted malaria and half a dozen have died. This is the life-or-death consequence of viewing pestilent insects as a “necessary” component of a “vibrant biosphere” and seeking a “reasonable accommodation” with them.

To stop this global health catastrophe, the ban on DDT must be rescinded. But even more important is to reject the environmental ideology on which the ban is based.

The real toll of greenbattery
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Old May 18, 2011, 02:27 PM
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Uh huh. Good luck proving the 10s of millions of deaths.
No problem. Well, at least for someone who will accept evidence.
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