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Old Apr 30, 2012, 08:26 PM
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so I'm flying along and suddenly my quad just, for no reason, rolls backward and falls out of the sky. I think to myself, WOW, that was weird! I think about it for a while, it send it back up into the sky, and WOW, it does it again. I replace the motors, just because I got some really good ones, and I send it up, everything is great then suddenly WOW, it does it again and finally the frame breaks. This quadrino adv board seems like crap.
Sad but this post describes my experience with Quadrino EXACTLY!!!

I just got done picking what few usable parts could be salvaged off of my wreck of a frame that suffered multiple wobble of death crashes with the Quadrino board in command.

Sad...
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Old Apr 30, 2012, 08:32 PM
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Again it's funny...
Quadrino is a nice and good Multiwii board.
But it's a Multiwii board and it need to be setup right.

Ok for a little explanation about Throttle
In config.h

Code:
/* Set the minimum throttle command sent to the ESC (Electronic Speed Controller)
   This is the minimum value that allow motors to run at a idle speed  */
//#define MINTHROTTLE 1300 // for Turnigy Plush ESCs 10A
//#define MINTHROTTLE 1120 // for Super Simple ESCs 10A
//#define MINTHROTTLE 1220
#define MINTHROTTLE 1150
This is the signal the Multiwii will send to the ESC when the board is Armed.
That should lead you to a slow spinning motor and be adjusted to do that.

Code:
/* this is the value for the ESCs when they are not armed
   in some cases, this value must be lowered down to 900 for some specific ESCs */
#define MINCOMMAND 1000
This is the minimum signal the Multiwii will send to the ESC when not Armed.
ESC need a minimum signal unless they think there is nothing wired to them and will just beep. Most ESC use stock setting. My 10A Turnigy Plush need 950
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Old Apr 30, 2012, 08:49 PM
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Again it's funny...
Quadrino is a nice and good Multiwii board.
You are from Canada, Dialfonzo. Funny seems to have a different meaning up there I guess, because after spending mucho danero and time on my Quadrino quad, and reading a considerable amount of good information in this forum and applying that knowledge in setting up the board- to have it fail so miserably is anything but funny.

My quad hovered for hours in my garage very well. My quad then flew for a considerable amount of time at the field fairly well after which time it wobbled and crashed. I replaced motors when I found through troubleshooting that one of four motors was at fault. ESC's calibrated, etc.

My next move would be to replace all ESC's and try again, but after running a quad on Rabbit board with very few problems and a super stable platform, I"ve decided quadrino aint the way to go. Just my choice, (and others have come to this conclusion as well) so it is what it is.

Aye?

By the way, I have onboard and ground based Gopro video to demonstrate if anyone is interested in the macabre destruction of quad frames thanks to quadrino craziness.



Funny.....

Oh and by the way Diafonzo, in english NICE and GOOD are "four letter words" LOLOL.
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Old Apr 30, 2012, 08:53 PM
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Well i am not responsible for your crash.
Just saying that it's funny that people shoot at the Quadrino board.

You can take a perfecly working quad and just throw some miss balanced prop and it won't even takeoff.

There is so many thing that can go wrong.

Yes.. just post the video..
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Old Apr 30, 2012, 08:55 PM
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Yes please post the video . I want to see if your quad makes the same "angry bee" sound mine makes just before a crash.

Mine hovers fine but makes the "angry bee" sound when trying to execute a coordinated turn or fast forward flight. Results in loss of lift.
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Old Apr 30, 2012, 09:50 PM
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GAUI 500X problem

I installed the quadrino zoom ver D with quadrino 2.0 firmware on my GAUI 500X.
When I throttle up I don't hear the esc's beep. When I try to fly the quad it is not flyable. The motors rev and then shut back. It flies great with the stock GAUI controller.
Can anyone make a suggestion about what's wrong?
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Old Apr 30, 2012, 11:11 PM
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Well I am underway rebuilding my quad, and giving my Quadrino board one more shot! I am thankful for the great help on this thread. Thank you experts! I respect you guys!
So right now i got everything assembled except propellers, and the changes for this time is better sturdy motor mounts, and vibration absorbing rubber between every screw and the board.
I did a static test without propellers, and all motors are running nicely and evenly, rotating in the right direction for each of them.
But i noticed one thing. I give it full forward the front two stop, then i give it full backwards and the back left stops, BUT the back right keeps spinning.
When i give it full left the left motors stop, and full right stops my front right but the same backright motor keeps spinning. Does that mean the ESC has different settings or is it a natural thing for a flight controller? Yes it is set up and config in X-mode!
Thanks for any help.
Shelby
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Old May 01, 2012, 03:41 AM
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How to calibrate speed controllers.

ESC Cal pc.wmv (4 min 24 sec)
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Old May 01, 2012, 10:44 AM
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Well i am not responsible for your crash.
Just saying that it's funny that people shoot at the Quadrino board.

You can take a perfecly working quad and just throw some miss balanced prop and it won't even takeoff.

There is so many thing that can go wrong.

Yes.. just post the video..
Here is mine
Quad Crash (1 min 36 sec)
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Old May 01, 2012, 10:47 AM
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Okay guys,
I have been running CC 10 amp BEC's since they came onto the market.
Well my beloved BEC's have shut to of my boards down.
Unlike most BEC's when they fail, they show no voltage on the output side.
What these do is show whatever voltage is on the input.
So if you have a 4S or 3S setup, you will see that same voltage coming out of the BEC.
So can a Quadrino board take 12 - 16 volts.
Heck no!
Since I am waiting on the first board to come back from repair.
I thought I would warn you guys if you are using CC BEC.
Castle Creations 2 and Quadrino 0.
Maybe the next Quadrino that comes out, will not even need a BEC.
Which would be a great idea.
I know it already has 12 volt V-in spot.
But it does not say if it will work on a 4s setup.
Since, I have 5 multi-rotors and they are not all on 3S.
It would be cool if we could get something that could work for 3S or 4S.
Thanks for reading.
Hey Doctor Audio, where did you send your Quadrino to be repaired? I need to send mine in too. Thanks for the info!
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Old May 01, 2012, 01:09 PM
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Quadrino Carnage.



Click to see full screen version in HD so you can fully enjoy the CRASH sequence.
http://vimeo.com/41368527

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Old May 01, 2012, 01:27 PM
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How to calibrate speed controllers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xpru6XoLg1Q
Excellent video!
Should go one the first page!
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Old May 01, 2012, 01:30 PM
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Click to see full screen version in HD so you can fully enjoy the CRASH sequence.
http://vimeo.com/41368527

Ken:
Let's see you HUI screen shot, please?
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Old May 01, 2012, 01:43 PM
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It looks like you problem is not the Quadrino.
The way it just started flipping is and issue between the motor and ESC.
I have seen this before!
Please check this motor and ESC that are on the right side of the camera. that looks like the one that just stopped.

The death wobble is from PID's being to high guys.
It does that only when the PID's are too high.
I would bet money on that your is a motor or ESC. If you programmed your ESC's.
Also Minthrottle, MinCommand and also the radio end points in the GUI!
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Old May 01, 2012, 02:08 PM
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Here is my GUI screenshot

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Ken:
Let's see you HUI screen shot, please?
Here we go. I'll try to fire up Arduino and get my minthrottle settings((edit) checked minthrottle set at 950).

By the way, thanks DoctorAudio for your troubleshooting help. Keep in mind that video was edited from two days of flying. Both times the quad flew for 3 minutes or so before crashing. If it were minthrottle or other settings, would it fly well at all?

Would have posted the entire second day flying video, but thought it was too long and boring...but if you watch it you can see its flying fine.
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