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Old May 07, 2011, 04:50 PM
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1) To interface with the Arduino MultiWii setup you will need the Arduino 0022 software and this:

http://www.sparkfun.com/products/9716

You can find the GUI and multiwii software here:

http://code.google.com/p/multiwii/so...se/#svn%2Ftags

You don't control the gain on the MultiWii controller like the Gaui GU344. You play with the GUI software and the PID settings.

For a good explanation of the PID control:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PID_con...iew_of_methods

2) To interface with the KK controller you need to check out Minsoo Kim's website:

He has all the firmware there including his lastest V1.6.

http://www.kkmulticopter.kr/

To upload the firmware into the KK controller you will need this gadget:

http://www.kkmulticopter.kr/index.ht...m_isp&id_no=79

You get the AVR Studio 4 here:

This program is the software interface for the KK controller.

http://www.atmel.com/dyn/products/to...p?tool_id=2725

You also do not control the gain of the KK controller from the transmitter. You adjust three potentiometers on the board for the gain on the roll, nick and yaw axis.
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Old May 07, 2011, 06:17 PM
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Don't think he needs the FTDI breakout with the Arduino 2009. It has one built in.

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Old May 07, 2011, 06:55 PM
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Don't think he needs the FTDI breakout with the Arduino 2009. It has one built in.

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Thank you. I have no clue which Arduino he has. I use it on my Arduino Pro and Pro mini.
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Old May 07, 2011, 07:06 PM
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oh well in that case whats my next arduino step please??

side note again so far i have ordered 1x pipo controller 2x kk black boards and 2 arduino v4 sheilds

i did email witespy about his board but think he thought i meant his flyduino? as he emailed back saying it wasnt plug n play gutted but still looking for more options so keep em coming while i fiddle with the arduino stuff ( i need to learn how to at least flash new firmwares onto the board and to me it looks like the kk and arduino boards are perfect teachers)
You say you want plug 'n play but have two kk boards coming. If you want to take the next step then put Mike Barton's xx14 code on one of them. You will not be disappointed once you get the PID settings tuned. Sadly the $25 serial lcd that lets you see the settings is currently out of stock everywhere but that should change.
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Old May 07, 2011, 08:14 PM
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1) To interface with the Arduino MultiWii setup you will need the Arduino 0022 software and this:

http://www.sparkfun.com/products/9716

i got the arduino 2009 bruv usb is onboard

You can find the GUI and multiwii software here:

http://code.google.com/p/multiwii/so...se/#svn%2Ftags

TY

You don't control the gain on the MultiWii controller like the Gaui GU344. You play with the GUI software and the PID settings.

yes i think i might be coming very unstuck when i get to here you lot please stick around yea?

For a good explanation of the PID control:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PID_con...iew_of_methods

ok will do

2) To interface with the KK controller you need to check out Minsoo Kim's website:

He has all the firmware there including his lastest V1.6.

http://www.kkmulticopter.kr/

To upload the firmware into the KK controller you will need this gadget:

http://www.kkmulticopter.kr/index.ht...m_isp&id_no=79

naa i got 2 of these instead http://www.protostack.com/accessorie...avr-programmer with postage it worked out cheaper to buy 2 of those than one of minsoo kims cut the 10wire lead in half and use one half to make kk 10pin to 6pin adaptor and the other half to make a cable for pipo the second one is backup for if anything goes wrong

You get the AVR Studio 4 here:

This program is the software interface for the KK controller.

http://www.atmel.com/dyn/products/to...p?tool_id=2725

naa i used this instead much more noob friendly
http://lazyzero.de/en/modellbau/kkmulticopterflashtool


You also do not control the gain of the KK controller from the transmitter. You adjust three potentiometers on the board for the gain on the roll, nick and yaw axis.
erm im a little bit past that stage bruv i mixed a minsoo kim board with a helicommand 3d for auto leveling and position hold many weeks ago i also did the same with a flymentor but the results were not so good

heres what my minsoo kim setup flies like

N-DROID ELG Repaired 1st actual flight tests flies very nice N3M1S1S (5 min 45 sec)


i consider that to be flying CRAP and endeavor to build something that flies much better!
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Old May 07, 2011, 08:43 PM
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You say you want plug 'n play but have two kk boards coming. If you want to take the next step then put Mike Barton's xx14 code on one of them. You will not be disappointed once you get the PID settings tuned. Sadly the $25 serial lcd that lets you see the settings is currently out of stock everywhere but that should change.
ok will do or at least try lol sounds like a nice easy step into p i d tuning and if i fail i just flash back to minsoo like that idea
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Old May 08, 2011, 03:29 AM
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erm im a little bit past that stage bruv i mixed a minsoo kim board with a helicommand 3d for auto leveling and position hold many weeks ago i also did the same with a flymentor but the results were not so good

heres what my minsoo kim setup flies like

http://vimeo.com/23325369

i consider that to be flying CRAP and endeavor to build something that flies much better!
Sorry, that was a generic response to your generic question of "what next to do with an arduino".

So I linked you everything that you need for the MultiWii board using Arduino Processor. I also linked you the KK minsoo kim site because you mentioned KK boards.

I can't tell what stage who is in by just reading posts on the internet.

I shouldn't have wasted my time.
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Old May 08, 2011, 07:50 AM
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Sorry, that was a generic response to your generic question of "what next to do with an arduino".

So I linked you everything that you need for the MultiWii board using Arduino Processor. I also linked you the KK minsoo kim site because you mentioned KK boards.

I can't tell what stage who is in by just reading posts on the internet.

I shouldn't have wasted my time.
no bruv you didnt waste your time at all and what you posted was actually perfect for anyone reading this thread in the future

my reply was just to update you on where i am personally so you can reply with more info

the kk controller im fine with till i run the xx software then i will be lost for a while

the arduino is totally new to me so will need as much help as possible

the pipo i have absolutely no clue about right now but hope i will by time arduino is up and running

and it looks like i could be in line for one of witespys new boards now he knows which board im on about lol

so please dont get offended btw the quad in the vid dont look poo but thats coz theres less than 5mph wind

at 10mph wind it looks like this

N-DROID PHEONIX ELG wind tests 10+mph nonHD camera Positioning test N3M1S1S (7 min 13 sec)


this needs to be sorted out
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Old May 08, 2011, 08:57 AM
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Where are you up to with your Arduino Nem? You should be able to get it in the air today with what you have

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Old May 08, 2011, 07:23 PM
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This thread started out as "Plug-N-Play" then there was mention of two KK boards, plug this into that, upgrade the firmware to this, build this cable to plug in that, what part of this is "Plug-N-Play?"

So I guess the only Plug-N-Play controller is the GU344?

I would think someone would make a killing if they could build a true Plug-N-Play solution that was stable with altitude/position and hold or auto level.
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Old May 08, 2011, 08:30 PM
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The Quadrino is close to plug and play like the gu344.

Just a couple if settings on the radio and your in the air.

10 min max. I should post a video. Plus All the screen and motor layout is printed on the board. So the board is the manual. Yay!
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Old May 08, 2011, 08:39 PM
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Witespy,

Have any video of one of the Quadrinos in action?

Any plans of coming out with a board with the same features but will handle a Y6 without a ppm encoder?

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this is what I was talking about, pictured without pins, they all come with pins installed..










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Old May 09, 2011, 03:57 AM
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SeismicCWave-I shouldn't have wasted my time.
You definitely didn't waste your time. The MultiWii software and PID links were exactly what I was looking for. Even if nem didn't need them. I sure did.

Thanks a lot for taking the time to list all those. You def helped me out. Thanks Seismic!!


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Old May 09, 2011, 04:16 AM
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Thanks a lot for taking the time to list all those. You def helped me out. Thanks Seismic!!
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Yes indeed, I learned a lot too... thanks!!
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