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Old Aug 10, 2012, 01:12 PM
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UMX Mig-15 should be 4.5 to 5.0 - around the big brother T28D level. It can take the abuse (nose landings cause min damage) and handles well thanks to the gyro. Red top, white bottom helps with orientation

UMX Beast 3D (v2) should be a 6 (7+ without gyro) - it does fly slower and more stably than the Mig, but it's sensitive without major DR + expo (as are biplanes) and is rather brittle due to the complex parts. Every time I've crashed, I had to fix up something.

A definitely 10 is the UM Stryker 180. Rolls amazingly well which causes me to lose it's orientation. EDIT: An experienced pilot whizzed around with the baby Stryker but I can barely keep it in the air for more than a minute (while I crash only 1 out of 4 times with the UMXes). I'm still a newbie, but learning lots by flying and crashing.
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Old Aug 10, 2012, 09:58 PM
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I think "0" should be gliders of the cheap sort, and perhaps small rubber band powered planes. These are for kids right?
Careful, Pilgrim, there're circles where them's fightin' words. The Nats that just ended - there're indoor and outdoor rubber powered classes. The winners -earn- the right and privilege to represent the US in international competitions.

At the low end, check youtube for penny plane. The weight limit is 2.8g, one US penny. At the higher end there are also RC versions:
RC Rubber Power Model (3 min 22 sec)


To each their own.

Airhogs are toys because any 8 yr old can wobble around in the air and make it do something, *and* crash it 50 times without breaking anything. Champ is only slightly larger but can cruise with absolute precision. They're both for beginners but Champ takes more skill and practice to -fly- it and not just wobble around.
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Old Aug 11, 2012, 01:27 AM
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Pretty cool, but I did notice it was not small.
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Old Aug 11, 2012, 11:20 PM
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Pretty cool, but I did notice it was not small.
Sorry, I didn't write that reply properly. That second example the outdoor rubber power was meant to be in response to boingk's 'not RC' comment.

There a re many possible variations. The manufacturers produce what the consumers want. The AMA creates classes for what people are doing. The scratchbuilders do anything that interests them.
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Old Aug 17, 2012, 09:37 PM
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nice to know my first ever plane was rated a 6 and my second i want to get is a 4.5! funny. i guess i shouldnt be nervous then... micro to the big boy t28. interesting. i love my micro!
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Old Aug 18, 2012, 12:26 AM
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I did that myself, Walter, going from a UM P-51 Mustang to a 3ch HobbyKing J3. I enjoyed both but learned a lot more about basic flight with the J3.

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Old Aug 20, 2012, 12:52 PM
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Are there any beginner planes(level 2-3) that look more militaristic? I know it sounds kind of weird, to be focused on the look and not the flying, but I would love my beginner plane to be of military design. I appreciate the info!
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Old Aug 20, 2012, 01:57 PM
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Are there any beginner planes(level 2-3) that look more militaristic? I know it sounds kind of weird, to be focused on the look and not the flying, but I would love my beginner plane to be of military design. I appreciate the info!
Not weird at all if that's what you like. The first problem is that most military planes are hot and fast, and not trainers. About the best you do is a cubby style slow flying high wing spotter type plane. The second problem is that you're probably not going to find anything like that in ARF or RTF form.

What you could do is build a kit, and cover and decorate it in the style you like.

The problem with -that- is that I -wouldn't- recommend that mainly for the -colors- involved. As a newbie you need all the help you can get and -color- makes a big difference in how you -see- a model plane flying.

One option here though is to get a cubby style trainer in the typical bright yellow, and later when you're comfortable flying it you can repaint and properly decorate it.

But that would leave you with nothing to fly while you're rebuilding it.

However, *NO* model RC pilot has just 'one' plane. What you could do is get started with the yellow trainer. When you've learned enough to move up to the T-28 or something similar, then you can temporarily retire the trainer for rebuild while you're learning the new one. Then you'll have two nice models of the style you like, with very different flying styles depending on what you feel like doing at the time.
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Old Aug 20, 2012, 09:35 PM
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vader5fist - I think you migh like this one:



http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...dProduct=14792

Its a J3 in all regards, but in the military's L-4 colour scheme. They were used extensively as trainers and for spotter aircraft. I had one and would highly recommend it.

A good setup if you're not going PNP is to get the Hextronik 24g 1700kv motor and an 18A ESC, as well as some 8x4 and 7x5 props. Start on the 8x4 (more thrust) and then go to the 7x5 when you feel comfortable (more speed).

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Old Aug 20, 2012, 09:38 PM
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YES, YES, YES, the blue version of that plane was my first plane and it flies very easily (I had simulator and heli experience). I do beleive they actually used cubs in the military, am I wrong? That is the best recommendation for you and it's cheap as heck. You will need a 1200mah 3s battery(cheap on ebay) and need to cut the foam to push it quite far forward. This plane is tail heavy stock.
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Old Aug 21, 2012, 08:11 AM
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I used self-adhesive velcro to put a 1000mAh 3s pack under the nose/landing gear area but reckon a 1200mAh would be better as I still needed 30g of noseweight. They were designed for NiCd packs so the lipos are a shock to the system. Loved mine thoroughly; I still have the tail as a reminder haha.

As far as cubs go... I beleive they did use them. I think it was conservatively estimated that something like 40% of airmen in WWII learnt to fly in a Cub?

As far as the L4 goes... the factory was quoted as saying something like 'We got an order for a military version, so we pulled a few Cubs off the line and painted them green' ...which wasn't far from the truth! I believe they also had a rear window, larger fuel tanks and often a rearward facing passenger seat for a spotter or radio operator.

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Old Aug 26, 2012, 09:20 PM
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What about the Fms/airfield Cessna 182 1400mm? Anyone got a rating for it?
I think I had one of these, I don't remember. I really had no formal RC training when I purchased it (just numberous crashes) and moved up to it from the GWS slo stick. I would rate the airframe as a good aileron trainer. It was able to do some pretty cool aerobatics and could put it into a gyroscopic spin just for fun but recovery was easy. No dihedral in the wings which makes it a bit more challenging for noobs.

I currently have a Multiplex FunCub and I would rate it easier than the Airfield 182 and also much more crash survivable. Big wheels are cool.
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Old Sep 07, 2012, 01:22 AM
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Binding?

Wrong forum.
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Old Sep 08, 2012, 04:50 PM
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I have a Flyzone Calypso. It was my first plane, and after having someone fly it for me the first time, I was able to launch it and land it on my own, as well as fly it several hundred feet away. It is very easy to see in the sky, and although it has ailerons, it is very, very easy to fly. All of that said, I flew helicopters for eight months before I bought it, and am able to hover a cp heli, and fly the snot out of quads. I think the Calypso is a good first plane for someone with sim time.
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Old Sep 08, 2012, 07:09 PM
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Nice post, right to the point. That plane looks like a good starter for those that can haul it to a field, but too large for the average backyard flier. http://www.flyzoneplanes.com/airplan...000/index.html
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