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Old Aug 19, 2003, 09:21 AM
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New H9 Ultra Stick Lite 1.20

This new one from H9 has my interest piqued.

Take a look.

http://horizon.hobbyshopnow.com/prod...?prod=HAN2325#

I'm thinking a C50 and some Lipos. I'll have to Motocalc things and see where I end up.

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Old Aug 19, 2003, 11:11 AM
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This does look interesting. Looks to have plenty of room for lots of batteries.

Let us know what you come up with here.
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Old Aug 20, 2003, 02:23 AM
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Just got my mailer and thought the same thing...C50 and TP LiPos

With a C50-13XL and 9 or 10s LiPos, it would have unlimited vertical. And it sure would be EASY to mount the motor and the packs!

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Old Aug 26, 2003, 07:10 AM
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So Mike do you have one in the works yet
I stoped by the LHS last night and there was one sitting there.
I opend the box it looks very interesting, I think it would make a great conv.
I can stop thinking about it ....
I have a C50 Acro 12xl sitting on my shelve at home it need a new home.... I don't know that may be a bit to low on winds
I will have to run some numbers when I get a chance

Thanks
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Old Aug 26, 2003, 08:08 AM
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I did Motocalc it. I started with 3x3S4P (9S4P) TP8200 packs. I came up with a C50-11XL 6.7:1 and an APC 18x10. I don't really know if that's ideal or not but it was the best I could come up with for that pack.

What I've done since then is watch a glow powerd Ultra Stick 60 at my field and decide that is probably where I ought to be. I mean the 1.20 will be pushing $1800 soup to nuts. That's getting awfully expensive for a simple ugly stick variant.

All that aside, it certainly would make a nice conversion. Heck the .60 size is plane too. Have you ever seen one fly?


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Old Aug 26, 2003, 08:44 AM
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Originally posted by Mike Wizynajtys
Have you ever seen one fly?


Wiz
I've seen quite a few glow/gas Ultra sticks fly. They fly GREAT, but are fairly heavy. Not sure of the Lite variant, but the non-lites are heavy, even for a glow plane.
Yes it is just a "stick" Someone with a bit of CAD experience could whip up one that will weigh about 1/2 as much. ( well close anyway ) Take GW's E-Stick, and make bigger controls. Split the ailerons for flaps, and it will be darned close to the U-sticks, and a whole lot lighter. True, not an ARF, but may be time well spent.

http://gwmp.net/sport-e-stik/default.htm
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Old Aug 26, 2003, 09:12 AM
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Well, the original Ultra Sticks were heavy. I think the new .60 and 1.20 lite are fairly light.

GW E-stick I think has a thinner wing with a shorter chord and tail moment. That's not to say that a person couldn't build one themselves that is lighter than the ARFS.

The major expense of a C50/Lipo powered Ultra Stick Lite 1.20 isn't in the airframe, but rather the 1300 some odd dollars it costs to power it.

I think maybe I need to see if I can get some dimensions of my friends Ultra Stick .60. and draw something up.

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Old Aug 26, 2003, 09:54 AM
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HUmm... didn't realize the wing was thinner on the E-Stick. The thick wing does add to the "magic" of the stick series of planes.
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Old Aug 26, 2003, 10:25 AM
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HUmm... didn't realize the wing was thinner on the E-Stick. The thick wing does add to the "magic" of the stick series of planes.
I don't want people to take what I said as fact here. The E-Stick looks to my eye to have a thinner wing, shorter cord and shorter tail moment. I haven't made any measurements.

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Old Aug 26, 2003, 12:26 PM
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Looks interesting. A C50-14xl, 6.7, 22x12, 9s4p will power it fine. It's almost the same size as my World Models Funworld - 70" wing, 1400 sq in, about 10lbs. The fuse looks kinda short like the Funworld. Won't be quite as good as a pure 3d plane.

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Old Aug 26, 2003, 01:33 PM
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Looks interesting. A C50-14xl, 6.7, 22x12, 9s4p will power it fine.


That's interesting. I wouldn't have thought to try such a large prop. Say Motocalc shows nearly the same vertical preformance with the C50-15XL, but a 10amps less current.

Still too rich for my blood. I'm going to build the smaller .60 size one.

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Old Aug 26, 2003, 08:12 PM
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the 60 flies great. Steve Rojecki has one and I think there's a thread on it. With Lipos it would really fly great.

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Old Aug 26, 2003, 09:08 PM
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Not an ARF, but if I were looking for a stick type plane to put a C50 in it would be a Spoiler by Jerry Smith.
It spans 81" with about the same area as the stick lite.
It could also be built a good bit lighter.

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