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Good experience. Flys just like the TREX 450. 55 79.71%
Bad experience. Ended up spening more money than if I were to buy a TREX 450 to begin with. 14 20.29%
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Old May 04, 2011, 11:57 AM
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TREX 450 Clones - Good or Bad Experience

I'm looking at getting a 450 clone - in particular the one below. I had a discussion with a guy who works at my LHS and he stressed that every person that he's seen buy a clone has ended up spending MORE money upgrading to TREX parts than if they had just bought a legit 450 TREX to begin with.

This poll is to collect pilot's experience with clones (good/bad). Maybe you can also post your reasoning for your answer in this thread as well. If things went well please tell us what setup you have! Thanks!

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Old May 04, 2011, 01:23 PM
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I've got to agree with your LHS as I ran into the same problem when folks with clone come to the store for help; especially when they want to fly the same day but don't have the clone parts to fix/repair the helicopter. Further, after a few crashes, they all want to "upgrade" to Align parts.

If you are looking for a 450, there is an ad over at runryder where the guy is asking $450 for a 450Pro. It comes RTF with a DX6i tx. Now that is a good deal.
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Old May 04, 2011, 07:16 PM
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Probably not spending as much as buying an 'real' Trex if you get a clone. Some of them are pretty good from what I heard. My experience is that you do need to replace a bunch a stuff over time. Very aggravating. So... I just got a Gaui 425 and I will see how it goes. So far it looks good. Quality is much better than the clone. But do I regret getting the clone. Not really because I am more willing to try things when the investment is not that high.... but after a while. Definitely go for the 'real' thing.

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Old May 04, 2011, 07:35 PM
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I agree with your LHS guy, too. I had two clones that both ended up with 80% Align parts and fasteners. Bought piece-meal, they cost me twice as much as if I would have bought the Align kit to start with. To add insult to injury, because they are technically still clones, they weren't worth crap when I sold them. After all that, I didn't like how they performed, anyway.
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Old May 04, 2011, 08:09 PM
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I'm with the others also, get the real deal, if it's in your budget. You'll be much happier down the road.
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Old May 04, 2011, 08:30 PM
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Hey, I'm new and last weekend marked my 4th month flying helis. All I know is don't get a E-razor 450. I had a bad expereance with that one. I have a Blueray now and its prettygood. But thats from somebody that has a lot to learn yet. I've replaced the tail gyro and tail servo(gy48, Corrona). It seems good but that because I don't know what really good is yet. I talk to the guys at the local flying field with Trex 450, 500 and 700 and they'er always replacing and upgrading stuff. For me I think the clone is good because first, I didn't know how long I was going to stay in the hobby and scecond, I learn why you need a good???
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Old May 04, 2011, 08:32 PM
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i've had pretty good luck with the EXI 450. i put some decent electronics in it, flies pretty dang good
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Old May 04, 2011, 08:44 PM
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I have an exi 450 pro and a cx 450 v2 both are great sport flyers and worked well right out of the box. On the other hand if you want a bigger heli stick with align. My exi 500 is pretty much all Align and tarot.

So for a 450 I would go with a higher end clone and for anything larger buy align, tarot, or a chaos.
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Old May 04, 2011, 09:08 PM
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I have an exi 450 pro and a cx 450 v2 both are great sport flyers and worked well rit out of the box. On the other hand if you want a bigger heli stick with align. My exi 500 is pretty much all Align and tarot.

So for a 450 I would go with a hier end clone and for anything larger buy align, tarot, or a chaos.
Why is that? Why is 450 the cut off point?
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Old May 04, 2011, 09:35 PM
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I have two HK-450Pro clones and one HK450 (clone of an older T-Rex 450). One of my Pros has many Align parts because I used the original parts to fix the other Pro. OTOH most of my spares are Align parts and that's how Pro #2 ended up with them. Other than crashes, I've not had bad experience with the 450 clones. The non-pro clone has only stock HK parts - no bad issues with that one either.

I agree about the 450 being the breaking point - my 500 and 600 are Align T-Rexes. Reason - larger helis get stressed more and are less tolerant to imperfections in components - in the meaning of a crash due to a component failure is more costly in larger helis than 450. For example a T-Rex 500ESP can be had for $615. That is all components included minus receiver and battery packs. And those are good quality components with warranty. A HK-500 kit is $100. It just starts adding up from there - blades, motor, ESC, servos, gyro. Yes, you can buy cheap components but is it worth it? Then I read about issues with the HK-500 kit - people who bought them had to change components with ones from Align before they even started assembling the heli. That's where it stops being inexpensive. In that T-Rex 500ESP if you calculate the cost of all components minus the airframe, you'll end up with approximately the same cost as the combo, so the airframe ends up costing $0.
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Old May 04, 2011, 09:45 PM
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the poll is not going to be accurate because most people own clones and do not want to admit that they would have been better off with a quality kit. some clones kits may be reliable once critical parts are replaced with align parts, what does that tell you?? you will not find a clone that performs at the level of a genuine brand heli unless it has many parts replaced with align parts. I have a clone that performs fairly well however it is 50% align. all those parts have been replaced because they failed during flight and caused a crash. you honestly don't know what your missing until you put a quality kit together and everything fits and there is zero slop. with that being said a clone heli can be built that provide reliability and decent performance but much more care must be taken when assembling and replacing certain parts. Electronics can also play a key roll, you can expect a crash when using $3 servos and $20 ESC's.

I would like to add that a buddy of mine has a tarot 450 pro and I have been impressed with it's performance.
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Old May 04, 2011, 09:58 PM
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After reading more previous posts I would second that the blueray was a decent clone. it was my first cp and performed very well until the tail exploded while trying to run 3300 headspeed.
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Old May 04, 2011, 09:58 PM
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I don't know why the clone manufacturers can't get 500 and larger heli's right. I am just giving you my perspective. I was an all clone heli buyer, but after my 500 wish I had purchased an Align. I have spent about $450 for my exi/align 500 heli. I replaced all bearings, the entire power train and tail to Align. I purchased an align gyro and cc esc. The cheaper HK electronics just didn't cut it for this size heli. I will say that the mg930's and hk motor have been good to me and are still on my heli.
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Old May 04, 2011, 11:06 PM
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In reality clones can be very hit or miss. however they are good for learning on because crashing is inevitable and it's better to crash a clone, then just replace the parts with Align. I gather this is usually the case with clones.
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In reality clones can be very hit or miss. however they are good for learning on because crashing is inevitable and it's better to crash a clone, then just replace the parts with Align. I gather this is usually the case with clones.
Thats what I was thinkin. Now, is Align the only good company. Why is everything Align. What about the Mini Titan?or others?
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