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Old May 01, 2011, 05:34 PM
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Please help me decide which 3DHS for me to become an addict

Hi All,

I've been researching everything I can find on rcgroups and the net on 3DHS planes. I appreciate any advice anyone can provide, particularly if you own/flown these planes.

My needs:
- My local field has a direct crosswind to the runway, and we often have gusty windy days so I need something that has good wind penetration and some weight so that it doesn't get bounced around

- Something precise enough to compete in sportsman and maybe intermediate pattern flying

- 3D capable - I would place these qualities slightly above the pattern qualities

- Needs to fit in a Honda Accord

From what I have researched I have narrowed to the following planes, let me know if I missed any or if any should be removed:

Extra 330 SC 57" - Seems like a good blend of 3D and pattern, larger than my acromaster so should do better in the wind and be easier to see at distance

Extra SHP 47" - I always thought this would be the next plane after my acromaster but the way the acromaster gets pushed around in the wind I think I may need something bigger/heavier/more powerful

Vyper 65" - I like the billing as a hybrid pattern/3D plane, good size, but I have a bias towards extras in appearance

Slick 59" - Seems to be another good all-arounder

So all that said, what I am looking for is suggestions on which plane is going to handle wind well, 3D, and be moderately capable of pattern flying to the point where I could actually compete in the lower levels with it.

Thanks in advance for your help on this, and for all the help you have provided others that I have been reading during my time in the hobby!

Bob
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Old May 01, 2011, 05:46 PM
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Bob, I think you did a pretty good job of narrowing it down. I'd suggest the 57" 330 or the 65" Vyper. Of course, the Vyper is in stock now. No waiting!

Also, if you're considering the 65"-72" size, there is always the 72" Extra 330. Really an awesome plane.
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Old May 01, 2011, 05:53 PM
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Thanks Horton! How is the top end speed on those planes? Alot of the guys in the club fly gassers and I feel like my acromaster propped for 3D sometimes had a hard time keeping up in the pattern.
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Old May 01, 2011, 06:18 PM
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A 17x10 on the recommended power system in the Vyper should keep up with them.
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Old May 01, 2011, 06:35 PM
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In that size I think I would go with the SC but if you where to go up in size a bit, I think you would love a 72 extra.. I actuly have more fun with it in the wind than any other plane.. On the flip side, if you where to go up in size and you are looking at doing pattern flying than you should look at the Osiris..
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Old May 01, 2011, 06:45 PM
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Hi All,

I've been researching everything I can find on rcgroups and the net on 3DHS planes. I appreciate any advice anyone can provide, particularly if you own/flown these planes.

My needs:
- My local field has a direct crosswind to the runway, and we often have gusty windy days so I need something that has good wind penetration and some weight so that it doesn't get bounced around

- Something precise enough to compete in sportsman and maybe intermediate pattern flying

- 3D capable - I would place these qualities slightly above the pattern qualities

- Needs to fit in a Honda Accord

From what I have researched I have narrowed to the following planes, let me know if I missed any or if any should be removed:

Extra 330 SC 57" - Seems like a good blend of 3D and pattern, larger than my acromaster so should do better in the wind and be easier to see at distance

Extra SHP 47" - I always thought this would be the next plane after my acromaster but the way the acromaster gets pushed around in the wind I think I may need something bigger/heavier/more powerful

Vyper 65" - I like the billing as a hybrid pattern/3D plane, good size, but I have a bias towards extras in appearance

Slick 59" - Seems to be another good all-arounder

So all that said, what I am looking for is suggestions on which plane is going to handle wind well, 3D, and be moderately capable of pattern flying to the point where I could actually compete in the lower levels with it.

Thanks in advance for your help on this, and for all the help you have provided others that I have been reading during my time in the hobby!

Bob
tough call. between all the smaller electrics from 3dhs i love the 57 SC. (i currently have the 40edge, 47edge, 47shp, 46vyp, 57sc, 72sc, 65vyp,51slick)

the 65 vyper is really great in wind though and flies really nice lines

the 57 can be quite fast depending on how you power it. I love how it flies

i generally use the 57 to warm up and then switch to the 87
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Old May 01, 2011, 06:55 PM
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The 103's fly good in the wind-
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Old May 01, 2011, 06:56 PM
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if you want to do pattern....the 65 vyper is your plane for sure. it flys amazing, i absolutely love mine! heres a (crappy quality) video with me flying my vyper

3DHS 65" Vyper (2) (6 min 18 sec)


and then here is a video of someone who knows what he is doing (arron, also know as theKM)

65 Vyper - a little 3D hucking (2 min 28 sec)
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Old May 01, 2011, 06:58 PM
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doesnt matter which one you buy first because once you buy one your gunna wind up getting the rest anyways
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Old May 01, 2011, 08:16 PM
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Great feedback so far thank you...sounds like the sc or the vyper is the general consensus...
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Old May 01, 2011, 09:56 PM
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At my club, most guys are still flying Nitro. When I am "flying the pattern" with them, my 57 SC does just fine (in fact sometimes I have to slow it down ... lol).

It slows way down for 3D though, so great for slow and low and fast and violent

Have fun regardless of how you decide to go.
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Old May 01, 2011, 09:59 PM
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My needs:
- My local field has a direct crosswind to the runway, and we often have gusty windy days so I need something that has good wind penetration and some weight so that it doesn't get bounced around

- Something precise enough to compete in sportsman and maybe intermediate pattern flying

- 3D capable - I would place these qualities slightly above the pattern qualities
65" Vyper.
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that's a do-it-all package that fits all of your requirements and will more than hold its own at a glow field.
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Old May 01, 2011, 11:08 PM
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That looks like a great setup, thanks blucore! Looking at the cost difference for packs and whole setup would you say the vyper is significantly better than the sc? Could the vyper also be flown in a small park?
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Old May 01, 2011, 11:26 PM
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Not in a small park. Stay 57-59" maximum for a park. 65" and up needs a field.
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Old May 02, 2011, 12:38 AM
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Agree with blu on the park, unless your skilled in Harriers and high Alpha then 59 or lower for parks, heck 51 and lower is probably better, for fields 59 and up is

My vote is for the Vyper as its an awesome looking all rounder and fits most if not all your requirements.
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