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Old Jul 21, 2012, 06:58 AM
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Well darn. I just gave up on an improved version and bought a used one!
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Old Jul 21, 2012, 07:03 AM
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That is great to hear!
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Old Jul 21, 2012, 10:50 AM
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I took a look at the paperwork, and I found out that the servos are in fact a new type.

The old ones were designated SPMAS-2000L servos. They chattered, whined, jammed, and had terrible feedback.

The new ones are designated SPMSA2030L- these are AS3X compatible servos!
Is HH going to update the F4U with AS3X? I'm tempted to build my own.
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Old Jul 21, 2012, 01:20 PM
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The new ones are designated SPMSA2030L- these are AS3X compatible servos!
Is HH going to update the F4U with AS3X? I'm tempted to build my own.
Maybe since they're selling the bricks with AS3X they're having the AS3X servos available for custom projects? As well as for those wanting to upgrade their existing aircraft to AS3X since they do not recommend using existing servos with AS3X?

An AS3X equiped F4U, that would be great!! For me that would mean flying I could fly her when the wind is over 2mph! I'm impressed with the winds my MiG 15 EDF can handle so I'd LOVE an updated Corsair!!!!
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Old Jul 21, 2012, 08:49 PM
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Has anyone tried programming aileron differential on this bird?
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Old Jul 23, 2012, 12:14 PM
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I took a look at the paperwork, and I found out that the servos are in fact a new type.

The old ones were designated SPMAS-2000L servos. They chattered, whined, jammed, and had terrible feedback.

The new ones are designated SPMSA2030L- these are AS3X compatible servos!
Is HH going to update the F4U with AS3X? I'm tempted to build my own.
Does your Corsair have the 2030's on the wings?

A picture would be great.

Add a beast 3D brick and a 5g motor and you'll have an AS3X 2S corsair.
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Old Jul 23, 2012, 12:52 PM
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The 2030 servo:


Doesn't look all that different, all I know is that these things don't sing or chatter at all.

My prop hub decided to disappear mid flight:


Quick video of the new F4U flying at around half-throttle. I flew with my right hand and filmed with my left. I'll try to get a better video taken.
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Old Jul 23, 2012, 12:52 PM
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The 2030 servo:


Doesn't look all that different, all I know is that these things don't sing or chatter at all.

My prop hub decided to disappear mid flight:


Quick video of the new F4U flying at around half-throttle. I flew with my right hand and filmed with my left. I'll try to get a better video taken.
The 2030's have Ball Bearings and much larger motors.
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Old Jul 23, 2012, 06:52 PM
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The 2030's have Ball Bearings and much larger motors.
I'm glad to see this thread's not dead. How heavy are these new servos? Ember, and Vapor all had the original servos and they were pretty quiet.

Then along came the long-throw servos with the Corsair and SBach, and they sing a lot. I am so happy to hear that we have reached a new level, where the servos are not only more robust, but quiet as well. Are these things digital or analog?
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Old Jul 23, 2012, 06:59 PM
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I'm glad to see this thread's not dead. How heavy are these new servos? Ember, and Vapor all had the original servos and they were pretty quiet.

Then along came the long-throw servos with the Corsair and SBach, and they sing a lot. I am so happy to hear that we have reached a new level, where the servos are not only more robust, but quiet as well. Are these things digital or analog?
The 2030 servos are 2.3g each vs. 1.7g for the regular 2000L's. They are way better in terms of performance, however. This is a great tradeoff.

The new corsair is probably a gram to 1.5g heavier than the old ones, but the servos are ahead of the CG.

The brick might be moved forward a little, too.
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Old Jul 23, 2012, 07:32 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSeer...ature=youtu.be

Got a little more footage- take a look and compare it to the older Corsair. Big improvement in my opinion.
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Old Jul 23, 2012, 09:11 PM
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Looks great. I wonder if the motors are getting better, too.

The New one is heavier, but it looks like it has more power.
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Old Jul 23, 2012, 11:11 PM
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The extra weight doesn't seem to be an issue at all. If it helps with CG, then that's even better.

My old F4U didn't fly very well with no weight in the nose- even with a dime taped in and with the 150mAh pack shoved all the way forward, the flights were barely tolerable.

I remember laughing at Parkzone's claim that it handled like its bigger brother, because the original model just porpoised all over the place. The new one almost kind of reminds me of the bigger F4U- just proportionally faster and more temperamental.

This one is actually fairly fun to fly and I actually prefer it over the UM P-51.

Here's the new 2030 compared to the 2000L:


Made an interim prop hub until the rubber ones are delivered:
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Old Jul 25, 2012, 09:43 AM
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I wonder if the motors are any better.
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Old Jul 25, 2012, 11:06 AM
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...something in me decided that I loved the look of the bent wing bastard, so I drove to the LHS to buy one.
I know what you mean..what a cool looking plane it is. Originally I thought my money was wasted on something that was all looks and no substance. Having the battery forward and a dime on the nose was not enough. If there is somebody out there who is still struggling with this plane, I would suggest packing more and more weight on the nose until it starts to behave.

I cut foam to move the battery further forward, and am using 200 to 250 mah batteries. Even that was not enough, and I still had to add a lead split-shot to the nose. It did the trick! It will fly hands-free in calm weather and wind is not so scary. On windy days I take the wheels off and fly over grass.

I agree that it's more fun than the Mustang. Having separate wing servos give your aileron stick inputs more punch. The Mustang has a single servo inside the fuse, with a bell crank and rods to each aileron. It makes for a more aerodynamic design and the servo is protected from harm, but the response of the ailerons is more mushy.
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