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Old Apr 22, 2011, 04:16 PM
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Getting a Syma S031G heli shortly -- anything I need to be aware of?

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I'm getting a Syma S031G 24" coax gyro heli in a few days; is there anything I need to be especially watchful for?
I have had some experience with the Syma S107G, so the actual act of trimming and flying won't be a huge issue, but is there anything with the S031G that's radically different between the two (electrically or functionally) that I need to be aware of?

Thank you ahead of time.
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Old Apr 22, 2011, 04:49 PM
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I've never had one but they look like a big doofus-copter to me. Way too many disco lights but worse yet perhaps just a scaled-up S032 (which is a dud and a lot of egg on Syma's face if you ask me). To big and hazardous for indoor use, too vulnerable to breezes for outdoors.

I hope others have more positive things to say. Me, I'd probably cancel the order if possible.

Have you read this yet? http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1246080

Just re-read it myself and I can't tell whether people like them except as shelf queens.
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Old Apr 22, 2011, 09:26 PM
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I've never had one but they look like a big doofus-copter to me. Way too many disco lights but worse yet perhaps just a scaled-up S032 (which is a dud and a lot of egg on Syma's face if you ask me). To big and hazardous for indoor use, too vulnerable to breezes for outdoors.

I hope others have more positive things to say. Me, I'd probably cancel the order if possible.
One of the reasons (albiet not the primary one) was -- ironically enough -- all of those "disco lights" as you put it. I run The LED Museum at http://www.ledmuseum.org and I deal primarily with lights and products that emit light -- though I did add sections specifically for R/C products about four years ago. Not only do I love things that glow, if they also fly, so much the better!!!


The main reasons I purchased it however are twofold.

1: I wanted a larger 3-ch. heli.
2: I wanted gyro stabilisation because I'm still a bit of a lousy pilot with helis.

I saw it on Ebay, watched some videos of it in action, and pulled the trigger (made the purchase) from the same seller who sold me my S107G a couple of weeks ago.
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Old Apr 22, 2011, 09:32 PM
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I understand your interest in illumination. I hope you got it at a good price.

The available options in 3CH helicopters seem almost limitless though. Maybe this one will work out well for you.

You might find this one amusing:

Micro HUGHES RC heli. A Flying DISCO BALL ! (4 min 19 sec)


And the SH 6025-1 is pretty disco-rific itself:

Worlds Smallest GYRO Helicopter Metal Mini-X 3.5CH RC Helicopter from HobbyTron.com (2 min 19 sec)
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Old Apr 22, 2011, 10:00 PM
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Hopefully it's not anything like the Syma S032, that thing is about as useful as a brick super glued to a fan.

What was the other heli that you bought that was spinning uncontrollably? No luck in fixing it?

The cheap larger 3 channel coaxials are a big gamble, fingers crossed you finally get one that works.
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Old Apr 23, 2011, 12:09 AM
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Re: Getting a Syma S031G heli shortly -- anything I need to be aware of?

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Hopefully it's not anything like the Syma S032, that thing is about as useful as a brick super glued to a fan.

What was the other heli that you bought that was spinning uncontrollably? No luck in fixing it?

The cheap larger 3 channel coaxials are a big gamble, fingers crossed you finally get one that works.
That POS I got was called the "Metal Series 33cm R/C Coaxial Helicopter" -- the URL to it on my website is http://ledmuseum.candlepower.us/32/33copt.htm

And you're correct: no luck whatsoever in repairing it...the "biotch" still spins and does not maintain trim for more than a few seconds tops. :/
The plugs for the motor are polarised, so I cannot insert them into the sockets "backward" which is exactly what I'd need to do in order for the main rotors to spin in the correct directions.

I chose the 103G because it is much larger than the micros I have, and because it has a gyro to make it flyable by even a "craptastic" pilot such as myself. I'm fully aware that because it is a coax, I must fly only in extremely calm conditions -- that even a little wind will make it difficult or even impossible to control and (possibly) subsequently nock it into the next block.
Hopefully, I won't lose it or crash it and cause it to become broken on my first flight...I still want some half-ass video of it in action to add to my website.

Avoiding product loss will be relatively easy: I can just drop the heli in the basket of my electric wheelchair and motor on down to the South County Ballfields (an array of five baseball fields) located approx. 2 miles (~25 minutes one-way) south of here. And if I can also avoid product breakage at that time, so much the better.
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Old Apr 23, 2011, 12:30 AM
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Well, let us know how the S031 goes.

Having a gyro isn't a big deal any more, any heli produced in the last few years will have one.

I have had bad experiences with Syma, their quality control is non-existent. The S107 is the only heli of theirs that I like, but even still my S107 no longer flies, and I never crashed it.

Esky make awesome large coaxial helicopters, unfortunately they're a little hard to find these days.
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Old Apr 23, 2011, 12:47 AM
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Rule on the larger Symas, never fly them longer than 2 minutes at a time. Might help keep it alive, might not. Longevity was a major issue with these. I have a S006G, very handsome midsize coax and still works but many failed in as little as 10 days.

Syma was pretty much a house-du-jonque before they stumbled on 107. Even the second-run 107s are nowhere near as good as the originals (I have 2). Their two tandems are said to be competent. But they're not lit, that I know of.
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Old Apr 26, 2011, 10:43 PM
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Re: Getting a Syma S031G heli shortly -- anything I need to be aware of?

Got it earlier this afternoon.
I was surprised at just how potent (large amount of lift, etc.) this "cat killer" has!!!

A couple of videos on YourTube of its maiden voyages -- first outdoors, then indoors (with the door closed to keep out any meowy furry critters):

Maiden flights of the Syma S031G R/C Coaxial Helicopter (1 min 4 sec)

Near the end of this video, it crashed into the left rear quarterpanel of a parked pickup truck.

Brief indoor flights of the Syma S031G R/C Coaxial Helicopter (0 min 57 sec)

And near the end of this video, it very slowly crashed into a wall -- but it sure did raise a stink when it crashed, hahaha!!!
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Old Apr 27, 2011, 02:37 AM
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I hate to be nasty nazi but it's a little large for most rooms, and it can't really fly outside since it's coaxial. You should definitely fly it in a spacious indoor area, then you'd have fun.

I got a MJX-F28 (also a coaxial - but a 4 channel from MJX ) and it's an awesome helicopter, but I can't fly it inside. Always flying it in my backyard whenever there's slight wind ( xept sometimes when I'm so impatient I end up loosing it in a tree and or someone elses backyard, I had to get a ladder and whack it with a stick to get it down - and it still flies fine )

Anywho enjoy your S031G
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Old Apr 27, 2011, 12:20 PM
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I'm aware of the pitfalls with this particular heli: it's too large to fly indoors in most rooms, and flying it outdoors in any significant breeze is a rather severe no-no.

Best I can do here is to take it to the South County Ballfields in my electric wheelchair on a calm day; it won't become stuck in a tree or go on somebody's roof anyway.

I'm expecting an R/C airplane (a Guillows A-10 Thunderbolt II) this coming Monday -- the only place I can fly it (or any other outdoor R/C plane for that matter) are those ballfields, so I'll just throw the heli in my wheelchair's basket along with the plane and then fly them both in the same session.
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Old May 01, 2011, 03:08 PM
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Re: Getting a Syma S031G heli shortly -- anything I need to be aware of?

Here is a concatenation of three outdoor flights I made a short time ago today:

Syma S031G Coaxial R/C Helicopter Outdoor Flight (2 min 16 sec)

Concatenation (combination) of three videos on YourTube showing the Syma S031G R/C Coaxial Helicopter being flown outdoors near my home in Federal Way WA. USA. Flights took place on 05-01-11 (or "01 May 2011" or even "May 01, Twenty Double Sticks" if you prefer). Time was 11:03am PDT and the ambient temperature at flight time was 52.0F (11.1C). The heli flew quite a ways away during the last segment of this video; a man (who was "oohing and ahhing" at the flight) carrying a small child plucked it out of the street and handed it to me before an approaching truck might have run over and subsequently sent it to R/C heli heaven.

Those "blotches" in this video are water droplets on the camera's lens that got there when I set the camera & tripod ass'y down in grass while I was setting up -- there was "dew-dew" on the grass that I was not aware of until I dumped the camera's memory into my computer and viewed the vids.
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Old May 06, 2011, 10:23 AM
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C'mon, SYMA, make a brushless version of this...you can see it's so overweight- and I really think that's always been the problem.

If I ever saw a "Go over and pick the dang thing up...again" -Copter, the S031 would be it.
Maybe you could seek Legal Counsel?

I think another rule for big SYMA's would be to immediately remove the outer side-plates and rear struts...get rid of anything that does not help it fly, period.

THEN fly it the very first time.
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