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Old Apr 06, 2011, 06:27 AM
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A Gar Wood you didn't know...

Shiny mahogany?

NOT!

Gar Wood had a machine shop... I think he did pumps and such? He supplied winches to Uncle Sam for the DUKWs in WW2.
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Old Apr 06, 2011, 08:51 AM
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Garwood invented the mechanism that raises and lowers the bed on a dump truck. Revolutionized the dumptruck industry. No doubt he came up with a lot more stuff that the military found very usefull. It was the income from the dumping invention that financed his Garwood boat plant and his racing hobby.The boats themselves provided very little income in comparison.
Tony Mollica has written a great book on the Garwood boats and Mr. Wood that is a very interesting read. He also lists all the boats that the company ever made and how many were made. Even the dates where they are known. You will still see dump bodies on dumptrucks with the Garwood name plate on the tailgate. Pete
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Old Apr 06, 2011, 10:52 AM
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lol...
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Old Apr 06, 2011, 12:04 PM
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Hey I'd be happy, if the income let me play with fast boats all day!
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Old Apr 06, 2011, 12:21 PM
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The owner of Gar Wood had a 53' commuter yacht named Gar Sr that went about 50 MPH. I haven't seen any mention about it on the net but it is featured in the book "Yachts in a Hurry". I have to get a picture of it to post for the Gar Wood fans. It was pretty sweet.

-Rich.
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Old Apr 06, 2011, 07:59 PM
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The owner of Gar Wood had a 53' commuter yacht named Gar Sr that went about 50 MPH. I haven't seen any mention about it on the net but it is featured in the book "Yachts in a Hurry". I have to get a picture of it to post for the Gar Wood fans. It was pretty sweet.

-Rich.
Is that the one with the twin libertys?
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Here is yet another side of Gar Wood.

The first two yachts were actually the same vessel but the enclosed bridge was added later on. The original name of this yacht was Cigarette and was later renamed Gar Sr. This yacht had 5 pounding Liberty’s under the hood. She was 70’ long. (I goofed on the footage on the above post) It must have been amazing to see that thing opened up at full throttle!

The second Gar Wood is the 50’Corisande which originally had 2 Liberties and later re-powered by Wright Typhoon V-12’s. Even with the two engines you can see that she flew!

Gar Wood really pushed the envelope on speed, even their large boats flew!

These are a little different from the small Gar's we all know.

Now I wonder how fast that dump truck went..LOL

-Rich.
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Check the hard chine flare on the boat in the third picture. No wonder it flew with a runabout planing hull. Nice looking boat I think. Pete
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Old Apr 07, 2011, 10:20 PM
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But I did know about these, several years ago we had one show up at the Finger Lakes Chapter Antique Boat Show. It was neat to see it.
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Old Apr 09, 2011, 08:28 PM
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Interesting Pat!
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Old Apr 11, 2011, 03:24 PM
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Is it just me or do the fast yachts bear more than a passing a resemblance to Turbinia?
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It's just you.
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Is it just me or do the fast yachts bear more than a passing a resemblance to Turbinia?
Maybe some REALLY EARLY fast yachts as in Fred and Barney powered. Pull up a picture of Aphrodite 1, 2 or 3 on google images and compare them to Turbinia.

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NEDERLANDER- The only similerity between the Turbinia and the Cigarette is that they both have a length beam ratio of 4 to 1 or more.

The Turbinia was a full displacement, round bottom hull meant to Peirce the waves rather than lift and plane the hull over the surface of the water.

The Cigarette was in all actuality a large version of the modified V planning hull Gar Wood and a lot of others used for their speed boat productions.

Most designers of the day all used length beam ratios of 4 to 1 or more all the way up to the 1950s, when the thinking started to turn the length beam ratios to 3 to 1 or less, with the idea that a wider planning surface would lift the hull of lager displacement easier, with a greater turn of speed. Another advantage is that for a given length of hull more interior space was made available for living quarters.
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Old Apr 11, 2011, 11:50 PM
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Frank I never said there was a comparison between the two; RG did. Turbinia was remarkable for her speed at that time in history. But as far as comparing her design to that of faster yachts (commuters) it simply doesn't wash. At least not in my humble opine. Maybe with some very early boats such as Arrow but that design quickly faded as did the very high ratios of 5:1, 6:1, and even 7:1. Round chines gave way to hard chines. Stepped hulls gave way to non stepped hulls and displacement hulls gave way to semi displacement hulls with flatter runs aft. Lower ratios did in fact contribute to more spacious living arrangements but the trend had already found a place in houseboat design and it was just a matter of time before the desire for comfort overcame the need for speed and the end of the toothpick boats.
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