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Old Jun 21, 2011, 03:45 PM
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I glued my tube into the fuse but I still ended up gluing the front tips of the stabs to the fuse to stop any movement. That way I can cut them free if I need to change a servo.

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Old Jun 21, 2011, 04:43 PM
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Hello,
What are these parts?
How heavy is your model with the battery?
your measurements in millimeters in depth, direction and fins please.
thank you



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Old Jun 22, 2011, 01:21 AM
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Hello,
What are these parts?
How heavy is your model with the battery?
your measurements in millimeters in depth, direction and fins please.
thank you



1. That's the aileron servo fairing, I didn't use them on my build, didn't like them (I dont notice any effect in the air).

2. Can't say, didn't weigh it yet (But it's light for the size).
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Old Jun 22, 2011, 02:41 AM
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Thank you super kupfer

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Old Jun 22, 2011, 12:36 PM
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Weight?

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1. That's the aileron servo fairing, I didn't use them on my build, didn't like them (I dont notice any effect in the air).

2. Can't say, didn't weigh it yet (But it's light for the size).
I would also like to know what weight your birds are comming in at.

Thanks,
Bob
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Old Jun 24, 2011, 04:56 PM
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Hello,
you have a photo of your servos masks of ailerons?
Thank you
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Old Jun 26, 2011, 02:35 PM
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Estimated weight of my Wind S 3325g (my engine is heavier than 100g recommended that the engine).
1500W 68Ap in 6S with a 17x10 APCE
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Old Jun 30, 2011, 12:31 PM
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finally got to weigh my wind, weight are

Canopy 103 g

Wing tube 39.5 g

Left wing 290 g

Right wing 287.6 g

Fuse 1889.3 g

6s4000 Blue Lipo 591 g

Total weight 3200.4 g 7.14 lbs 1600 watts = perfect
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Old Jun 30, 2011, 03:50 PM
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Reciver/Pro CC BEC 3S 1350 receiver pack

Hey guys,

Where would you suggest I mount these three items. I'm using pull/pull so I can't use that space for anything else. I planed on mounting the ESC as shown on the left inside of the fuse.Thanks for your help


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Old Jul 06, 2011, 02:15 PM
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Weight in tail

I had to add 2 1/4 oz to tail to balance "barely" at 200mm.

Has anyone else needed to add weight?
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Old Jul 09, 2011, 05:55 PM
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I am a beginner with Patterns planes.
Is it normal that you need som up elevator when inverted ?
I have tried moving the battery backwards 1cm at the time and now i have almost moved it 3cm and now it does not need so much up elevator.
But now it feels heavy in the back, especially when landing.

Some mentioned that he has changed the downthrust 1degree.
Is this going to improve this problem ?

/regards from Micke
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Old Jul 09, 2011, 06:30 PM
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Heavey in back

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I am a beginner with Patterns planes.
Is it normal that you need som up elevator when inverted ?
I have tried moving the battery backwards 1cm at the time and now i have almost moved it 3cm and now it does not need so much up elevator.
But now it feels heavy in the back, especially when landing.

Some mentioned that he has changed the downthrust 1degree.
Is this going to improve this problem ?

/regards from Micke
The real question is where is your CG? should between 200 and 210mm.


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Old Jul 09, 2011, 08:59 PM
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I am a beginner with Patterns planes.
Is it normal that you need som up elevator when inverted ?
I have tried moving the battery backwards 1cm at the time and now i have almost moved it 3cm and now it does not need so much up elevator.
But now it feels heavy in the back, especially when landing.

Some mentioned that he has changed the downthrust 1degree.
Is this going to improve this problem ?

/regards from Micke
By "up" I'll assume you mean push, as in down elevator (while inverted). Yes, it's normal, in fact one year at SEFF I had the chance to talk to Quique Somenzini and asked him that very question. See a buddy had been telling me my 2 meter pattern plane wasn't setup right because it didn't fly inverted "hands free". Quique told me that while you can trim out a plane to fly this way, you don't want to, it won't track nice and it should require a tad push (down elevator) to fly inverted when a plane is trimmed properly. Take it or leave it, to me this was advice from a guy that knows...

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Old Jul 10, 2011, 07:13 AM
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Yes, i meant down elevator (push on the stick).
I started out at 210mm (wing tube), i have then tried with 220, 230.
But now that i know that there is nothing wrong with using some down elevator when inverted i am back at around 210.

Thanks for the help.
Now i going to try to se if i can tune in some mixes from the manual.
Do you have some advice in which order and what to look out for in doing that ?
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Old Jul 10, 2011, 12:38 PM
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Do you have some advice in which order and what to look out for in doing that?
I'm not a mix person, I believe you should learn to compensate via stick. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying it's wrong it's just that I know a guy who may be the best pilot I've ever seen and he doesn't use mixes, he says learn to fly it so you can adapt on-the-fly with any plane in the future.

BTW, he also flys everything on high rates and doesn't really care for expo. The guy is amazing, he adapts to anything he flys as if he's been flying it for years...

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