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Old Apr 28, 2011, 04:15 PM
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...All in all, I'm glad to see another plane become available.
Hopefully, it will be on the market soon but the latest E-flite information shows the release date being pushed back to mid-May 2011.

I really liked this clean sport/pattern design so much that I've got one on preorder. I'm looking forward to putting it together & then getting it off the ground. Will be using the recommended 480 motor, 40A ESC & 2200 mah 3s lipo setup with metal gear servos. I'm an intermediate flyer so this should be a good starting point.

Anybody else anticipating the release like me?
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Old Apr 28, 2011, 04:27 PM
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I like the look of it myself but wish it was bigger. I'd like to see them come out with a larger model as well. Something about 55-60".
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Old Apr 28, 2011, 05:02 PM
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I like the look of it myself but wish it was bigger. I'd like to see them come out with a larger model as well. Something about 55-60".
I was also looking at the E-flite Advance 25e. Larger wingspan, full length rudder & that love it or hate it semi-enclosed engine compartment. Not a pattern plane, though.

I'm kind of stuck on the smaller parkflyers at this point due to space constraints in the hangar...
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Old Apr 29, 2011, 08:14 AM
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I saw the plane at SEFF. It looks like a nice little park flyer. I'm waiting for it to come out and see what others have to say about it before I pull the trigger on buying one.
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Old Apr 29, 2011, 08:22 AM
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RCAV8TOR,

If you are looking for something closer to true pattern parck flyer, the Aeroworks Stingray is definitely an option. I had one and it was sweet little plane. In some respects, I wished that E-Flite had brought something to market that was a little closer to their Brio of years ago.

For the Leader, I did consider buying the plane and making a couple of changes:

1) Convert it to a tail dragger
2) Split the elevator so that the rudder can go all way

Just a thought,

Teo
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Old May 14, 2011, 08:46 PM
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I've started attaching the ailerons to mine. I think I'm going to gap seal all the surfaces just in case.

I've got 4 Hitec Hs-65HB servos. I'm going to have to lengthen all the servo openings for them to fit, but they have the same specs as the e-flite servos (which seem to be unavailable.)

Also, I've been wondering why e-flite recommends a 40 amp esc for a motor that only bursts to 28 amps? After looking at the plane I think I know why: There is very little airflow through the the fuselage. No cooling holes, everything is sealed. Is it possible they recommend higher Amp ESC to buffer for heat?

I plan to go with the new E-flite 30-Amp Pro ESC, I'll look for ways to get a little more cooling air across it.

I bought this plane because there is just something about its lines that I like. Sure, it doesn't look like any real full size plane, but it looks like it's going to be fun to fly.
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Old May 14, 2011, 09:15 PM
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johnm. I'd go ahead and run the 40 amp option. i personally think that is only a 2S rating and will be derated at higher voltages. better safe than sorry.
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Old May 14, 2011, 09:20 PM
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Where did you order your plane from? I didn't realize they are out yet. I asked about it at Joe Nall and they said they didn't bring one there to show off. Kind of dumb, IMO, they had one at SEFF.
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Old May 15, 2011, 01:39 PM
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I've used Park 480s in several other planes and when I "watted" the setups I never saw more then a 25amp draw on static motor runs using 3S lipos.

All those planes had good air flow through the fuselages (Mini Ultra Stick, Mine PulseXT, etc.) so I never worried and never had a failure that I didn't cause.

Summer's almost here and heat will be an issue. No airflow in the fuselage could be a problem so a larger ESC is probably a good idea. I'm still studying the layout maybe an entry and exit for cooling air may be necessary? To do that with out messing up the clean lines of this pretty little plane is what I'm studying.

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johnm. I'd go ahead and run the 40 amp option. i personally think that is only a 2S rating and will be derated at higher voltages. better safe than sorry.
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Old May 22, 2011, 02:26 AM
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I ordered one from Advantage Hobby on Friday. I have the Spektrum A3040 servos and a Hacker A30-12M motor that needs a plane.
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Old May 25, 2011, 01:00 AM
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Where did you order your plane from? I didn't realize they are out yet. I asked about it at Joe Nall and they said they didn't bring one there to show off. Kind of dumb, IMO, they had one at SEFF.
Check your local Hobbytown. They had two on the shelf at the one near me.
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Old May 25, 2011, 06:42 AM
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Check your local Hobbytown. They had two on the shelf at the one near me.
Will do. We have two of them here in the Charleston area.
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Old May 28, 2011, 10:57 PM
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I just finished my Leader 480, and hope that the wind dies down tonight so I can "maiden" it tomorow morning.

The build was a bit tedious. Some parts broken (wing root) right in the box during they're part of the assembly. The wing bolting tabs were both glued into broken wing root ribs right out of the box, as was the fuselage floor aft of the 3rd former (very hard to reach to repair)
Also the nose gear control rod has to be re-routed or the binding is so bad you have no rudder.

The nose gear parts also bind and have to be sanded shaped and drilled so that they can move. You might as well know this BEFORE you assemble it.

Wow would I love to find a company with a little better materials, a more complete kit, and better attention to manufacturing and assembly details. I'd happily pay more to get those things.

the servos they reccomend aren't yet availeble. Got some hi-tecs with the same dimensions as reccomended and all the servo pockets have to be enlarged to accept the servos.

The manual is way better than the Chinese re-written ones. I would say the manual is quite good. Color photos or online videos would save hassel and frustration. but now I think Im just praying out loud or maybe some manufacturer is listening... I'd pay more for that kind support, if you're out there.

I do love the lines. There are quite a few LITTLE ITTY BITTY TINY LITTLE PARTS that are mission critical and you don't get any back ups.... so good luck there. you are likely to drop them on the garage floor and BACK TO THE HOBBY SHOP... Probably 6-10 trips to the hobby shop figuring stuff out.

It is VERY fragile, but Im told this is the case with many balsa and ply aircraft....

I love the lines and design so much that Im going to build a second one. I may regret that. And Im totally open to a

The reccomended 3" wing servo extensions should both be 6" servo extentions.

I'll probably build it stock and then put a power 10 in it. I'm not a fan of the e-flite servos after seeing the issues folks are having with them in the Carbonz Yak so I'll probably go with something from Hitec instead.

Wish me luck tomorow, wont you. I'll post how much time it takes to build the 2nd one.

Best,

Props
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Old May 28, 2011, 11:17 PM
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After much thought I finally picked this up at the LHS. I am very pleased with it and quite excited. After building this ARF for the last couple of hours it is now maiden ready. I am using the E-Flite 480 1020kv motor w/a 12-6 prop on a 40 amp esc. I hooked it up to my watt meter and at WOT it pulls 26 amps and about 282 watts on a 2200 mAh 20C, which is plenty of power for this plane.
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Old May 29, 2011, 01:10 AM
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Hi Dangerous,

Did you have any issues with the build or the quality of the construction/materials?

Thanks! Mickydee
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