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Old May 17, 2012, 12:54 PM
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Okay since you have had an crash.
Maybe check the set screws for the shaft in each motor. That could cause one to spin faster than the others!
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Old May 17, 2012, 01:05 PM
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I went to Murrayville Elementary ( small world ) . Im visiting my parents in two weeks , they live on the Sunshine Coast in Sechelt . I dont know about surfing but the swimming is awesome there in the summer. I'll be bringing the Quad with me when I go so Im looking forward to that .
Sunshine Coast used to be my stomping grounds years ago, cousin's lived in Gibsons and I've got good friends that live in Sechelt. Davis Bay would be similar to WR for flying, but if you feel brave and don't mind a hike to get there, consider going out to Skookumchuck rapids, some spectacular scenery there. If you get real brave you could hover over the salt water rapids when they are at full tilt, but kiss your quad goodbye should you have a bad dumb thumb moment..
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Old May 17, 2012, 05:52 PM
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Wiring repair question?

I noticed when I had to replace a motor plate, that the motors on my Witespy 450 are soldered to the ESCs. Is this done for expedience sake during the building process, or is it necessary to carry the amperage from the ESC to the motor?

In other words, can I install bullet plugs and still be safe as far as carrying the current from the ESC to the motors? It sure would make making repairs easier.

Jim
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Old May 17, 2012, 06:11 PM
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I noticed when I had to replace a motor plate, that the motors on my Witespy 450 are soldered to the ESCs. Is this done for expedience sake during the building process, or is it necessary to carry the amperage from the ESC to the motor?

In other words, can I install bullet plugs and still be safe as far as carrying the current from the ESC to the motors? It sure would make making repairs easier.

Jim
Bullet connectors should not be a problem.
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Old May 17, 2012, 06:38 PM
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I have a witespy build 1d, (((BEWARE))) Be careful updating firmware. the quad will disarm. do not turn of transmitter. the new firmware does not have a failsafe and it will take off full throttle. (((BEWARE)))
I am replacing multiwii board to the 1e with ez-connect. I don't know who named this, but it's not easy.
Does someone have a diagram to make it easy to use the esc connectors from 1d board and the ar8000 rx. To the 1e board with ez connect.There seems to be alot of loose ends and grounds not connected.
First: Beware? Really? I don't believe it. The quad should not arm itself, mine does not. (MW 2.0). There is a failsafe routine in the software, maybe you need to configure correct. What kind of TX/RX are you using? Makes a difference. Try not to make blanket statements/warnings w/o more info.

Second: You should not use the same wiring, you should re-wire with the included wiring harness. I believe there is a diagram included. What you should do is send the board back and have Paul install header pins like your 1d board has, then you can just drop it in.

Also: http://flyingeinstein.com/index.php/tutorials/ezconnect

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Old May 17, 2012, 10:14 PM
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Bullet connectors should not be a problem.
Yes, take the time and move to bullet connectors, no problems as long as you do a good job soldering. Also, it's soooo much easier to replace ESC's or Motors when you want/need.
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Old May 18, 2012, 01:10 PM
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Okay since you have had an crash.
Maybe check the set screws for the shaft in each motor. That could cause one to spin faster than the others!
Thanks for the suggestion, but looks like everything is ship-shape there.

I did a bit more testing, and it would appear to not be a hardware issue at all. I switched the ESC connectors from the rear motors to the front and visa-versa, and then the front motors ran slower than the rear motors, rather than the other way around. This tells me that it's actually the signal from the board to the motors that is incorrect.

I also tried changing the pitch and roll channels in the Tx, to see if it's a signal issue. If it had been a signal issue, this would have caused the motors on one side to run faster, but it did not. The speed difference was still a front/back issue.

So, that leaves me with the board itself. Fir some reason, the board is making the rear motors spin slower than the front motors regardless of mode. I already re-uploaded the firmware with no effect. Do you think there's anything else I can try? It's the Quadrino Zoom board, and physically is pristine.
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Old May 18, 2012, 04:15 PM
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Great news for Witespy Naza owners, Naza GPS will be out with RTH and PH for $169 in June! Very cool!
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Old May 19, 2012, 12:28 AM
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Yes, take the time and move to bullet connectors, no problems as long as you do a good job soldering. Also, it's soooo much easier to replace ESC's or Motors when you want/need.
Thanks guys

Jim
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Old May 19, 2012, 01:25 PM
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Can anyone recommend which "timing mode" to use with the Turnigy Plush ESC's and Quadrino Zoom?
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Old May 19, 2012, 01:35 PM
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Changed to Naza

Just finished changing over from quadrino to Naza. Very impressed with the stability. Ive also installed LED lighting. I thought the LEDs were just a fancy addition when I first saw these, but its enabled me to get more flights in when I get home from work and its dark. My nearest neighbours are about 300 metres away and I could here them screaming out when they saw the quad lit up in the sky. They had no idea what it was lol.

Now I just have to wait for my go pro to arrive

Michael

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Old May 19, 2012, 01:45 PM
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Can anyone recommend which "timing mode" to use with the Turnigy Plush ESC's and Quadrino Zoom?
Below is the best explanation that I have read:

"To cover the most possible scenarios without prior testing, medium timing should be used. Those who wish to use low timing to conserve
power should bench test the esc/motor/prop combo prior to flight by running it completely through the throttle range to make sure there are no
sync issues that would cause the motor to hesitate or stall. If the motor manufacturer recommends a specific timing (such as high), then that
recommendation should always be followed. Bench testing all timing selections prior to flight and choosing the lowest one that gives smooth
motor response throughout entire throttle range should provide the most efficient setup".
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Old May 19, 2012, 01:52 PM
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Thanks csnes1! I'm currently using the medium setting but two of my motors are getting extremely hot even after a couple minutes of hovering. They're brand new so i'm trying to determine what may be the cause. Still gotta try adding some oil and swapping two of the motors.
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Old May 20, 2012, 12:38 AM
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Below is the best explanation that I have read:

"To cover the most possible scenarios without prior testing, medium timing should be used. Those who wish to use low timing to conserve
power should bench test the esc/motor/prop combo prior to flight by running it completely through the throttle range to make sure there are no
sync issues that would cause the motor to hesitate or stall. If the motor manufacturer recommends a specific timing (such as high), then that
recommendation should always be followed. Bench testing all timing selections prior to flight and choosing the lowest one that gives smooth
motor response throughout entire throttle range should provide the most efficient setup".
All the quads are send out at LOW timing... You can change this to high or medium timing to get more "zip" out of your motors. But it will make them work harder.

tons of UPDATES:

I have the HoryzonHD 1080p Camera in stock .... This is a Killer camera for the readytofly quad. I am installing them now, or I have them for sale too.. Fits perfect in the frame, and FPV ready with live video out.

I will have some 5.8G 400mw 8CH Video Transmitters and good DVR's coming very soon

Also the Quadrino GPS is done.. Boards are ready. Working on the code now.. Should not be long..

Also have flashed ESC as an option too if you want to try out the rapidESC's

sorry for the messy pictures.. I will get some better ones soon.












video from camera SD card.

witespy quad with new camera system . test.1 (5 min 11 sec)


and video form downlink (my editing/recorder messed this up big time. I will find something better.)
HoryzonHD fpv downlink test (5 min 38 sec)
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Old May 20, 2012, 11:57 AM
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Thanks for the Updates......great additions!!


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All the quads are send out at LOW timing... You can change this to high or medium timing to get more "zip" out of your motors. But it will make them work harder.

tons of UPDATES:

I have the HoryzonHD 1080p Camera in stock .... This is a Killer camera for the readytofly quad. I am installing them now, or I have them for sale too.. Fits perfect in the frame, and FPV ready with live video out.

I will have some 5.8G 400mw 8CH Video Transmitters and good DVR's coming very soon

Also the Quadrino GPS is done.. Boards are ready. Working on the code now.. Should not be long..

Also have flashed ESC as an option too if you want to try out the rapidESC's

sorry for the messy pictures.. I will get some better ones soon.












video from camera SD card.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lHBxk9j9Qc

and video form downlink (my editing/recorder messed this up big time. I will find something better.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNf7o-VCs8A
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