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Old Jun 25, 2012, 06:13 PM
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Hi,
It is actually in the manual of the bandit. I have included it in:

"Motor and ESC Installation

The motor is installed behind the motor box firewall using four screws and large washers (supplied with your Thrust motor). The washers are used in front of the firewall to spread the load. DO NOT under any circumstances enlarge/modify the motor shaft opening on the motor mount. If you are using the Thrust 40, remove the C clip off the motor shaft prior to installation to avoid it from rubbing against the firewall. There is no risk by removing the C clip when firewall (front mounted) installation is used. "


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TBH honest I don't remember what was in my Bandit manual and since I didn't fit a thrust motor I didn't pay that much attention to the parts in it abou tfitting the Thrust motor. I made an assumption based off the number of questions we get in these PA threads about why people's motor doesn't fit flush of which there has been plenty in the Bandit thread so assumed the Bandit manual left it out as well. My mistake sorry!

Still doesn't answer my question about why the circlip is fitted in the first place since the motors can't be rear mounted so there is no need for the circlip in the first place.
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Old Jun 25, 2012, 06:21 PM
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Just watch out that you are not pushing the plane over the limits when using different propellers and gear. in other words the APC (same size) is not equivalent to the Vox (same size) but actually draws a lot more amps and has more vibretions. you may cause the motor box to break or something else to damage. not familiar with the specific motor you chose to use but anyway it would be experimental when using different gear. Personally i have found that Vox props give more flight time than APC, they consume less amps and are easier on battery packs! and in case of a bad landing you will only break the prop and not the plane...
Not true. The testing done by the guys in the 'Extreme flight power combo thread' shows this to be the exact opposite in many cases. Although there is the odd size where APC's draw more amps than the equivelent Vox (same size) in most cases the APC's produce less thrust but significantly lower amp draw. In many cases the APC produce 2-3% lower thrust but at 10-15% lower amp draw.

I've not had any issues with the motor box yet, but I have been keeping an eye on it since i'm making over 50% more thrust than the Thrust 40 setup.
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Old Jun 26, 2012, 03:05 PM
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Hi,
It is actually in the manual of the bandit. I have included it in:
I think the instructions about the clip and washer are also printed on the side of the Thurst 40 box.
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Old Jun 26, 2012, 03:18 PM
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than APC, they consume less amps and are easier on battery packs! and in case of a bad landing you will only break the prop and not the plane...
In case of a slightly bad landing on a paved runway, the wooden prop instantly splinters. I have gone through three of them. At $10 a pop pljus shipping, it's painful. The APCs are more forgiving of a bump against the ground.
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Old Jun 26, 2012, 08:27 PM
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Not true. The testing done by the guys in the 'Extreme flight power combo thread' shows this to be the exact opposite in many cases. Although there is the odd size where APC's draw more amps than the equivelent Vox (same size) in most cases the APC's produce less thrust but significantly lower amp draw. In many cases the APC produce 2-3% lower thrust but at 10-15% lower amp draw.
Can you post a link to this test report please.
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Old Jun 26, 2012, 08:56 PM
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Can you post a link to this test report please.
http://rcwebclub.com/Articles/Extrem...erOptions.aspx
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Old Jun 26, 2012, 11:45 PM
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TBH honest I don't remember what was in my Bandit manual and since I didn't fit a thrust motor I didn't pay that much attention to the parts in it abou tfitting the Thrust motor. I made an assumption based off the number of questions we get in these PA threads about why people's motor doesn't fit flush of which there has been plenty in the Bandit thread so assumed the Bandit manual left it out as well. My mistake sorry!

Still doesn't answer my question about why the circlip is fitted in the first place since the motors can't be rear mounted so there is no need for the circlip in the first place.
If someone were to buy a thrust motor for a plane made by someone else... you might need the clip to be there. People made the same careless mistake when building the addiction, and then tried to blame PA even though it is clearly printed in the instructions. Go figure......
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Old Jun 27, 2012, 01:17 AM
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In case of a slightly bad landing on a paved runway, the wooden prop instantly splinters. I have gone through three of them. At $10 a pop pljus shipping, it's painful. The APCs are more forgiving of a bump against the ground.
Wooden props are just so much more efficient,and even a small nick on a plastic doesnt always do justice.they vibrate then and eventually tear your plane apart and that look of a VOX or XOAR on the front just looks so sexy
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Old Jul 02, 2012, 02:27 AM
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Had the Bandit out on the weekend running a 15x6 prop on 3s with the Motrolfly 2820-950. Motor handled it fine, actually kept cooler etc.. then my normal 13x6.5 on 4s setup. Didn't have the outright punch and speed of the 4s setup, but control authority was awesome along with much more stable harriers. Knife edge flight was also easier as you could hold it at a nice high AOA at a consierably slower speed whereas on 4s you need to keep the speed up quite a bit to maintain altitude.

So since the motor is handling it fine i'm considering going up a pitch angle maybe 15x7.

Only downside is prop clearance is pretty slim even with my 2" wheels (standard is 1.5") you have to make sure your landing are greasers otherwise you'll catch the prop.
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Old Jul 07, 2012, 07:02 AM
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http://www.heliguy.com/Extras/Servos...Digital-Servo/
http://www.4-max.co.uk/jxf-props.htm
The 2 places I go to for kitting out my PA stuff, Bandit's next on the list of course (:
Just hope the servos come back in stock from Heliguy...
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Old Jul 07, 2012, 12:37 PM
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Looks like I'll be joining the PA Bandit crowd shortly (hopefully maiden next coming weekend). I got the ipa pro package so I am looking forward to the build. My 2nd PA plane . My AddyX is currently down waiting on new landing gear. More time to catch-up on backlog builds
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Old Jul 08, 2012, 09:31 PM
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Looks like I'll be joining the PA Bandit crowd shortly (hopefully maiden next coming weekend). I got the ipa pro package so I am looking forward to the build. My 2nd PA plane . My AddyX is currently down waiting on new landing gear. More time to catch-up on backlog builds
Reef,

Congrats on joining the Bandit crowd. After you have flown it a few times consider jumping up to the 4S setup. It takes the Bandit to a whole new level.

If you have any questions during the assembly don't hesitate to reach out.

Best Wishes,

Jim
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Old Jul 08, 2012, 09:41 PM
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I think you are going to love this plane. Its a lot of fun to fly even in the wind.
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Old Jul 09, 2012, 09:57 AM
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Yes, the Bandit is an all around blast. It harriers the smoothest of all my planes. I also agree with the 4S... there is SO much power that you punch out of almost anything (unless you're plane is pointed in a different direction than your mind, like mine was) and it still flies very smooth.
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Old Jul 09, 2012, 10:07 AM
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Looks like I'll be joining the PA Bandit crowd shortly (hopefully maiden next coming weekend). I got the ipa pro package so I am looking forward to the build. My 2nd PA plane . My AddyX is currently down waiting on new landing gear. More time to catch-up on backlog builds
congratulations!! you will love it
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