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Old Mar 19, 2011, 11:24 AM
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Has anyone ever

Has anyone ever done a 1/144 Uss Colorado?

Im a Colorado native and would like to build one.

Any pictures would be helpful

http://www.hnsa.org/doc/plans/bb45.pdf

I found these which look good, but I've never built from plans before, so please tell me if im being too ambitious for a 16 year old kid.

I do have router, dremel, band saw, drill press, assorted sanders, table saw, air compressor and my dad is a woodworker/mechanic. I do have the resource to build the ship but if it is too difficult i don't want to be in over my head.


Thanks for the help


*waits for Umi*
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Old Mar 19, 2011, 12:17 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Colorado_%28BB-45%29

Im going to do this ship in the WWII era
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Old Mar 19, 2011, 12:23 PM
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Looks like it will come out to a Beam of 1.47 Feet.

And a length of 4.33 feet.

I'm not entirely sure of the beam, does not seem proportional in my mind
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Old Mar 19, 2011, 12:33 PM
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Length is right; Beam is 97.5 ft /144 = 0.68 ft = 8"

Over your head? With your resources (including Dad's experience), anything is doable. Question is, do you have the time for all the finicky detail?

Building hulls is (relatively) easy. Detailing the model, with all the hundreds of little fittings (and they aren't very big in 1:144!) requires dedication and obsession.
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Old Mar 19, 2011, 12:41 PM
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Thats what i mean as far as over my head. I will be sure to do enough details to do justice to the real Colorado. I would like to do 1/74 so i could at one time fight with Umi's battle group. What is a ship in 1/72 that is only 4-5 feet. I would like to do 1/72 Colorado but thats 8 Feet!

Anyway, Can anyone teach stew to build from plans
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Old Mar 19, 2011, 12:43 PM
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Is making a mold and then making a fiber glass hull easy?

Ive done fiberglass work in our real ski boat.
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Old Mar 19, 2011, 12:52 PM
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Ah, RC combat... that may make some things easier... many combatters don't put huge amounts of detail into their models- the term "silhouette" comes to mind. Which makes the hull (and functional armament) the biggest jobs.

Teach hull building from a table of offsets? Someone would have to write a book, that's a lot to ask in a forum reply. Why not get the book?

This is a good example of one that covers the basics:
http://shop.traplet.com/product.aspx?c=299


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Old Mar 19, 2011, 12:54 PM
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Are the plans i posted in the OP, i can build off of those, correct?

I will check my Local Library as well
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Old Mar 19, 2011, 01:19 PM
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The linked plans are PERFECT and complete for designing and building a model hull.

I never trust the shapes from printed copy though... whenever it's available, I use the Table of Offsets and replot my own frames.
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Old Mar 19, 2011, 01:20 PM
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The linked plans are PERFECT and complete for designing and building a model hull.

I never trust the shapes from printed copy though... whenever it's available, I use the Table of Offsets and replot my own frames.
"I use the Table of Offsets and replot my own frames." What do you mean by that?
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Old Mar 19, 2011, 01:55 PM
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That's your homework assignment. You tell me what a Table of Offsets is and how to use it. Hint: It's right there on the plans.
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Okay, Thank you Mister Miyagi.

In all seriousness thank you for mentoring me.
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So the Table of Offsets is that big table at the top of the plans.

Too me it looks like you can use this table (from the little bit of physics class i remember) to calculate the Hydrostatics displacement, pounds per inch immersion, and the stability.

Also, i read some of a book a neighbor had and it sounds to me like the Table of Offsets can be used to draw the lines of a hull and thus build it.

Now thats what it is as far as using it im clueless


*Reads more of book*
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Old Mar 19, 2011, 02:15 PM
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Oh ok I think i understand.

Its like Geometry.

"the table of offsets is nothing more than the cartesian coordinates that define an ordered set of points on the ships hull. The waterlines, buttocks and stations are an ordered set of fair curves that flow through the points"

"If you don't know how to read a table of offsets, chances are you don't know how to draw and fair lines either. It takes a little knowledge and experience. You probably will need to read a book on the subject, or in a basic book of naval architecture or boatbuilding."
{Ben Langford}

Now there is how to use it. I think.


That is how it is used, actually drawing the lines from that chart is beyond me. I would like to learn how though.

Have a week off for spring break this whole next week, so maybe i could start learning.


So i learned that those numbers are dimensions sometimes in Feet-Inches-eighths.

So Lofting means you are making it like 3D?
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Old Mar 19, 2011, 02:18 PM
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Oh i see in the plans, there are the lines of the hull that have a number, that number corresponds with the table.


So a foreman or supervisor of ship building would take note of all these points while building the ship?

and when the ship was designed a architect would create the chart for the ship builders to build off of.
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