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Old Mar 18, 2011, 08:34 PM
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Sebart Wind 110

Wiz, how are you powering your Wind 110? Motor/controller/cells/prop, etc.

What is the weight and power output?

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Old Mar 18, 2011, 09:20 PM
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Well, I'm just using the recommended (stock?) setup. That being a Hacker A50-16L, a Zippy 2x4S 5000 wired serial and an APC 18x12e prop. I have a Jeti Spin 99 ESC on it as well. It's been too long since I weighed it or had the watt meter on it to quote those numbers with any certainty. Tomorrow, I'll pop it on the scales and hook up the trusty old watt meter and get you some fresh information. I just play with so many different numbers in my play and work that if I took a stab at it I'd be embarrassed tomorrow.
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Old Mar 18, 2011, 10:52 PM
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My plane is about 9.5lbs, with 10S 5000mah zippies, carbon gear, Scorpion 4035 motor. Was running 71A with the 4035-250 and 18x10e, but the motor blew up. Now running 4035-210 at about 60A and 18x12, very nice performance but not sure that I trust the motor. Scorpions are a bit lighter than the Hackers, and the carbon gear saved another few oz.

Ordered a Neu 1512 motor which will be about 1-1.5oz heavier but should run 18x12 or 19x12 at a few hundred higher RPM. Might run a carbon prop to split the difference.

Here's some data flying Sportsman with 4035-210, 18x12e prop:
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Old Mar 19, 2011, 01:38 PM
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Well, mine tipped the scales at 10 lbs 2 oz. Right now I have the PL8 bringing an older pair of Zippies out of hibernation so it will be a little while before I can pop on the Watt Meter.
Apparently, I need a new tach too. I don't really use it all that often but today it won't work even with new batteries. Oh well, for now I'll post the watts, amps and voltage drop under load.
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Old Mar 19, 2011, 03:18 PM
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Alright.... that was cold! Anyway, 34.2V before I ran the motor at all. It dropped to 33.3V with the motor off. 28.7V under load but it started dropping fairly quickly. I think I just proved to myself that it's time to buy some new batteries.

67.7 amps was what the watt meter read near the beginning. I also read 1870 watts near the beginning.

I wonder what batteries I should try next. I think I'll try my Thunder Power Prolite V2s and see how they compare. I'll post the results. Then I'll buy something new and post them too.
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Old Mar 21, 2011, 06:40 PM
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OK did a test run with the TP Prolite V2s today and there was quite difference.

33.4v with the motor off, 28.7V under full static load but 73.5 amps and 2144 watts. With this system I have over 200 watts/lb. That's big! And it's not a small improvement over the other batteries, it's huge.. I think I'm going to try some of the higher quality batteries this time around and see how well they hold up.
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Old Mar 21, 2011, 07:02 PM
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Wiz, is there space for a 10cell pack and an 18 or 19" prop. I have an Actro 40-5 sitting in the cabinet that was planned for a 2m pattern plane before I got sidetracked with motorcycles. It's a little heavier than modern motors, but will do 2200 watts or more on an 18 or 19" prop on 10 cells.

I see they are recommending close to 3000 watts for the 2m Vanquish although that might only be necessary if you're flying the more advanced sequences.

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Old Mar 21, 2011, 07:08 PM
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Well Norm, there are people out there flying them on 10S. Look at the diameter of the Hacker A50-16L and the diameter of your Actro. Also notice that the motor bolts in behind a nose ring type mount. If that will fit then you might be in business.
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Old Mar 21, 2011, 07:37 PM
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Thanks, I just checked the manual and it looks like it might take a bunch of work to fit a big rear mounted outrunner. I think I'll look elsewhere.
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Old Mar 21, 2011, 07:52 PM
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Norm, I'm bettin that power system you have will work fine in a Vanquish 2m. I don't ever need all the power my Wind 110 has at ly level of flying.
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Old Mar 21, 2011, 08:07 PM
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Just looked at the Vanquish 2m manual and it looks like my power system would fit fine. Seeing a picture of it with a person next to it makes it look like I might have a problem transporting it in my Grand Cherokee though. Always something.
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Old Mar 21, 2011, 08:35 PM
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I don't think you will have any trouble transporting it in a Grand Cherokee provided the passenger seat folds down. I can fit my Integral or Xigris in an HHR when I feel like it. A buddy of mine transports his 30 some odd percent Sukhoi in his Cherokee and I definitely know the Wind 110 I sold him does.
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Old Mar 21, 2011, 08:44 PM
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Yeah, I can probably shoe horn it in somehow. My 2m scale aerobatic planes are a tight fit and they have a shorter fuselage than pattern planes.
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Old Mar 23, 2011, 10:41 PM
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Mr Wiz, check the limit on that Hacker. Isn't it burst 60 Amp? I know they are conservative, but in the Wind, the issue will be over heating.

I only used an APC 18x10 and got about 61.5 amps, but then I went to a Xoar 18x12 and the watt meter said I went down in amp pull (about 57 amp). The Xoar props are great.
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Old Mar 24, 2011, 07:18 AM
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I'm sure it is burst to 60 amps. I've never had any problems pushing the burst limit on any of my Hackers so far. That said, I have plenty of 18x10 APCs so maybe I should just play it safe and switch. Come to think of it, I have a Xoar 18x10 too.
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