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Old Mar 16, 2011, 10:50 AM
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"Swallow" mahogany runabout

Hello.
I was "playing" with DelftShip some time ago, trying to make some project to build. As I love the mahogany classic runabouts I was heading to make something pretty .
This is what I've made up..

Swallow mahogany:

Now I'm working in AI to make drawings for laser cutting service.
Just curious, what do you think about the shape..?
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Topsides look great, but not sure if its an optical illusion or not, the side on the bottom looks like it bellies down a bit. almost like a type of rocker in it. I think that this could make it bounce when running at speed
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I have to agree with MKC Syd, that there is way more rocker in the bottom planning surface for the hull to run right. If you put a straight edge against the bottom of the hull at the transom and go forward until the bottom of the hull no longer is against the straight edge you will see that the planning angle of attack will have the bow running far to high.

Also MKC Syd is correct in that the hull built as shown in your drawings will be very prone to hopping or bobbing up and down along with the very real problem of cavatation. I think you would be better off if you ran your bottom planning surface parallel to the base line or water line from its deepest point of transition from lifting to planning surface.
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Hello.
Thanks for the advise. You have right..I will correct it in Delft and then i will post the newer version.
In the mean time I've designed logo and letters.
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Ok. I've modified the project..made the bottom lines more smooth..
I think it's better than before..

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I think Don Aronow would have put his name on this one!
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Ok..I've changed the project a bit more and now I have more curvy transition from deck to the side.I think it's far better now.


And 3D view:


Now I think I can start serious drawing in AI for laser cutting.
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Old Mar 19, 2011, 07:17 AM
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BY JOVE!!! I THINK HE HAS GOT IT!!! Really looking good now. The boat design looks a lot like something that would come from the boat shop of VAN DAM. I will be looking forward to the hull layout and build.
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I've made first lines plan for model.It will be 1200mm long, 240mm wide and 113mm deep hull.

I'm going back to work..
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Szmyk,
Very cool looking. When you say AI - mean Adobe Illustrator? ...yes?

Never thought to use the 3D tranform, if that's what your using. What version are you running if so.
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Very cool looking. When you say AI - mean Adobe Illustrator? ...yes?

Never thought to use the 3D tranform, if that's what your using. What version are you running if so.
Thanks, ken
Hi. I'm glad that you like it.
To design the shape of the hull I'm using DelftShip software,
this software provides 3D modelling.
To make drawings for Laser cut service, add strips to the project and make it strictly for modelling, I'm using Adobe Illustrator.
I don't have such experience in AutoCAD as in AI.
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What scale are you thinking of building in?
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Congratulations!

Its hull is very beautiful. Ha some time ago I made a somewhat similar boat to that his.

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Old Mar 22, 2011, 05:21 PM
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Frames almost ready

I've done some parts for laser cut, Now will try to arrange the hull inside.
Working...working..
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Thanks for sharing this beauty. Every time I look at it I think twin Lamborghinis.
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20 stations? I would recommend 5to 8
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20 stations? I would recommend 5to 8
Hello finn..yes there are 20 stations..
If someone will build the model later, he will have always option to make less than 20.
What I'm building is the prototype of this boat..
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Just a few hours of thinking and planning and I'll have ready drawings for laser cutting.
In the mean time I've made sort of like side view of the boat.
I've changed the stern a little bit
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Old Mar 28, 2011, 12:37 PM
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The parts arrived:)

Hello.
I've just collect the parts from laser cutting. NICE!







I've got to start this week.
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Very neat and tidy work. must be great to have the tools to do it that nicely---.
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Deck

The very first drawings of the deck..yet without chocks and smaller parts.

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I think that boat will look really nice Szmyk. Is it ready for sea trials yet? No? Well get to work. Pete
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Aye, aye, sir!
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Frames setting

Hello.
I bought the mounting board and set the frames today.
place some stringers to check if everything is on place and in right order.
So far so good...
Couple of pictures from my dockyard:











In the mean time I'm trying to find some metal laser cutting service to make the exhaust covers.
Tomorrow I will sand the formers to the shape of the hull..

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oh wow... oh wow.... love that shape...
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Our local laser company is working on a 48 inch square machine. I can hardly wait for it to be up and running. I have visions of quarter scale Ditchburn Vikings and Minettes. Maybe with a Baby Boot thrown in for good measure. What are you planning to power Swallow with? About 41 inches I think you said?
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Well..good question.
Im planning to use brushed Speed 600 with 35mm propeller.There's a 500mm shaft with about 300mm housing to provide low angle of thrust.
That will be temporarily set to make trials on water..
Later on i will replace the motor with marine brushless.

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Small update

Everything fits without any problems so far..









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This is looking great and it's moving right along. Good build. pete
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This is looking great and it's moving right along. Good build. pete
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Is that a composition keel I see?
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Is that a composition keel I see?
Yes, that's obeche/wallnut/obeche..
I need advice guys..
I should make first planking with obeche or balsa?..
Previously I was thinking about making one planking directly with mahogany..
But it will be better to make two I think..(?)
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Not only is the design beautiful, but you have a good eye for photography. I am thoroughly enjoying your work!

Would it be rude to ask how much laser cutting the frames cost?
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Not only is the design beautiful, but you have a good eye for photography. I am thoroughly enjoying your work!

Would it be rude to ask how much laser cutting the frames cost?
Thank you RGinCanada, I'm glad that you like it.
Laser cutting of my parts (20 stations and small bits) costs about £28 without material.
I've prepared all drawings for them, because if they would do it, they will charge you. I have no problems with this company, easy and painless..
And..my second hobby is photography..
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I think double planking with 1/16 inch stock. I prefer linear inside and radial out but that is up to you. Balsa inside is easiest to fair, then soak with clear penetrating epoxy sealer but stain first to match the color of the finish planks to avoid white show through. Photography eh? What format do you prefer? I always enjoy setting up a view and waiting for just the right light. Unfortunately they finally did take my kodachrome away...
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I think double planking with 1/16 inch stock. I prefer linear inside and radial out but that is up to you. Balsa inside is easiest to fair, then soak with clear penetrating epoxy sealer but stain first to match the color of the finish planks to avoid white show through. Photography eh? What format do you prefer? I always enjoy setting up a view and waiting for just the right light. Unfortunately they finally did take my kodachrome away...
I will go first for 1/16 obeche and 1/16 mahogany then.

In regards of photography, since I have 1st Pentax I began to be "Pentaxian" . I have K20D with some older and newer lenses.
My second camera is 645N medium format.
I've sent you PM with link to my works..
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I am finally going to ask after giving this several days of contemplation; what are the cut outs in the transom for?
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Awesome build ! Look`n forward to the progression of it
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I am finally going to ask after giving this several days of contemplation; what are the cut outs in the transom for?
Hello.
These are cut outs for the exhaust. I would like to cover it with some sort of heat cover.


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Man oh man what a beauty. You have done a fantastic job.
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Man oh man what a beauty. You have done a fantastic job.
Thanks..
I'm planking the bottom of the boat now..will post some pic's tomorrow.
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There is a small progress in my work..






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Small progress... pbthhhhp!

You are flying along!
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Small progress... pbthhhhp!

You are flying along!
I've had busy weekend..First photo session in my life..
But i have to touch my boat every day..You know that..
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Hello everyone.
I didn't asleep yet..
I'm not sure if I did it right by releasing the hull from the jig..
But it happened..
Bottom planking is almost ready, also the sides are partially covered.
It's starting to look like a boat now..
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that is one beautiful looking boat!!
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This thread added to WOODIES: Wooden Pleasure Craft Build Logs listing.

Path: RCGroups -> Boats -> Scale Boats ->"WOODIES..."

Lookin' forward to following along
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Thank you craig_c.
It's pleasure to be here..
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The rudder

I've made up the rudder. It will be more polished..later.
I found that the most difficult part of planking is transition from sides to deck..




I will back soon..
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SZMYK- I have been studying the hulls line you have posted and the construction of the hull interior and see what I think could be a problem down the line. First I notice that you have taken the extreme rocker out the hull bottom, which is a good thing , but if you place a straight edge on the planning surface from the transom forward, I think you will notice that the keel and stem post will not be lifted clear of the water surface by much if at all.

The reason I think that this may be a problem is that a planning hull will drop its bow when it goes into a turn and with your stem post already touching the surface of the water could cause the hull to hunt or even dig in causing the boat to swap ends when in a hard turn.

The second thing I noticed is the extreme forward placement of the motor in the hull going by the where the stuffing box is entering the interior of the hull. I realize that you are trying to have a flat shaft angle for better thrust, but care must be taken to move weight of the batteries aft to get good balance of the CG on the hull. Normal balance on the hull is between one third and one half the over all length of the hull measuring from the transom. Also watch how much you tuck or roll in the chines going toward the transom from their widest point on the hull. Since it will cause suction or drag on the hull if done to extreme. You will also be loosing lift of the hull due to the decrease of bottom area.
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Hello frankg.
I'm not specialist in designing and this is my first attempt.
What I was trying to design, is more racing runabout than pleasure boat.
I believe that you have more experience in boats than me, so maybe you have right.
I understand that this boat will not be able to make tight turns because of it's length.
Well..we will see, when I will finish and release the swallow to the water.
I know that CG must be in 1/3 of the overall length.
Before installing the equipment and first of all making the water lines, I will try to achieve the CG and compare it with the designing program.
Hopefully there will be no disaster on water..
I'm planning to make another boat in the future, so I will be in touch on this forum.
Of course I will post the movie and pictures from trials on water.
I'm sorry for misspelling.
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Update

Couple of pictures from dockyard:




I've just checked mahogany strips for planking ordered from CMB a week ago.This is amazing!!
They sent 53 strips instead of 80, 7 of them was 1,5mm as ordered, rest of it is 2mm!!
They're amazing..
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Sorry to hear about your issues with planking from CMB. Have they offered to correct it?
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Sorry to hear about your issues with planking from CMB. Have they offered to correct it?
No, but i will send complain letter about that.
In regards of wood this company it's waste of time and money.
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why dont you lazer the vents out of wood then use silver leafing on them you get the look of metal but the easy workability of wood just a thought. I love the lines on this thing what program did you use to draw it out? I would like to play around with this as well
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i just drooled all over my desk thank you haha Great work I would really love to be able to draw up some plans like that and have some laser cut frames be sent in the mail.
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I agree. This is really a slick looking boat. I love the concave hollows which I assume are for the exhaust and the transome is very interesting. Great job . Pete
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Thanks guys..
I've made the vent, but I'm not happy with this shape..should be more flat I think. It's just try.
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The vent looks good to me. There were a lot of different shaped vents out there. The Hacker Craft vents at least the late 20's and 30's were not flat
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There's a little progress..:)

I have had lots of other things to do last couple of weeks, but the boat is getting better..Now I'm installing the rudder housing and hatch frames on the deck.


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Maybe a little progres, but looks great.
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Maybe a little progres, but looks great.
Thanks very much..
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You haven't been posting. I hope everything is Ok.
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You haven't been posting. I hope everything is Ok.
I'll be back in a couple of days. I just came back from holiday..
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Welcome back Mariusz! Hope the vacation went well.

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Hello every one..
Yes, vacation went well, but I didn't rest too much
I'm doing finishing touches before the second planking with mahogany.
As is very hard to get pear wood in London, I bought mahogany strips from Model Shipyard. I must say that these are lot better than CMB and I have all 1,5mm as ordered.
I'm preparing some metal fittings before the second planking:

Did some one used UHU Contact glue for planking, or better to use cyanoacrylate?
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Old Jun 20, 2011, 09:23 AM
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Planking 2

Hello.
Shaft housing is on place glued with silicone to reduce the noise.
I've started the second planking today with mahogany strips.
Have thumbs all in cyanoacrylate


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I've been waiting for this update! Looking good!
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AWSOME is not a strong enough word for this magnificent boat it is Superp.

When i got to first unread in thread today the picture of the aft with beginning mahogany planking. it was a sight gods whorty.

This one sure gonna fly like a swallow.

I would wish i got a place here in Copenhagen where they did lazercuts its just stunning.

I use UHU hart for planking, and so far i have no problems.

Just one question.. Where did you get that shaft housing? It would look awsome on my Riva. as the one delivered in the kit were only worthy for a display boat. So i am going to get me 2 like your's.

THANKS for making this build log. I LOVE IT...

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AWSOME is not a strong enough word for this magnificent boat it is Superp.

When i got to first unread in thread today the picture of the aft with beginning mahogany planking. it was a sight gods whorty.

This one sure gonna fly like a swallow.

I would wish i got a place here in Copenhagen where they did lazercuts its just stunning.

I use UHU hart for planking, and so far i have no problems.

Just one question.. Where did you get that shaft housing? It would look awsome on my Riva. as the one delivered in the kit were only worthy for a display boat. So i am going to get me 2 like your's.

THANKS for making this build log. I LOVE IT...

Robert
Hello Robert.
Thank you for kind words. Hopefully it will "fly like a Swalow"..Have lots of work to do with my beauty.
I have shaft with housing from Model Dockyard, but manufacturer is "Caldercraft" that's their standard shaft.
Best Wishes
Mariusz
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Ooh not the outer shaft... sorry i meant the support in the aft the the...the one holding it just in front of the propeller.

Thanks Robert.
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I've made it myself from 2 pieces of brass plates, soldered together.
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Old Jun 20, 2011, 04:41 PM
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Like the rest of your boat, they are superp..

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Update

I've finished the bottom planking today. Now the most difficult part for me..the sides planking and transition to the deck..



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Drool..

Awsome i absolutely love this wavesplitting swallow..
Im confident that you will susceed on your planking it is looking superb...
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I am in love!!! Wow!

She is going to be something spectacular!
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Looking good.
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You're gonna need a bigger pond
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You're gonna need a bigger pond
Oh yeah..certainly.. Thanks guys for encouraging me..
That's the beginning..She should look better and better
I'm considering to paint the hull under the waterline with dark green dye..(if I will find)to expose the wood structure..Just thoughts..
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Oh yeah..certainly.. Thanks guys for encouraging me..
That's the beginning..She should look better and better
I'm considering to paint the hull under the waterline with dark green dye..(if I will find)to expose the wood structure..Just thoughts..
Sounds like a great plan... and Lockwood dyes can give you any color of green your heart desires (you can mix the dyes... just make enough so you will have some for future touch-ups)!

(BTW, I agree, your woodwork is just way too nice to cover up under paint!!!)

From the Woodies reference list... with references to dyes, dying and Lockwood Dyes.
For example:
Water Based Concentrated Powders

Forest Green . . . .

Moss Green . . . . .

Oil Soluable (Use mixed in Turpentine)

Green Concentrate

Also check out the stains that they have specifically for Mahogany
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Thank you Craig!
The Forest green on the left side is what I'm looking for.
I will try to look for such color in local shops, if not, I will order it from "Lockwood Dyes".I've checked the prices and will cost me about £20 so it's not so expensive.
I have already spirit dye for all mahogany parts
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Anny news?
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Anny news?
I'm working quietly
Side planking is done, just slowly trying to manage the transition from sides to the deck. After that I'm gonna sand all hull.
Thinking about to use steel wool for scraping, but before I would like to make some kind of pad.
I've made the black frame for the deck as well.
The deck will be made with Paduc strips with white caulking.
Best wishes.
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Looking good, that baby got some curves...
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My baby will get some curves soon..
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Ahhh.. SWEET!!!!!
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Now she have some curves..:)

Finally I finished bottom and side planking..Looks better than I expected.)
I'm starting the deck with red paduc stips/ white caulking.
Today I bought 24ct gold leaves for some ornaments and name on transom.
Fresh pictures below:






I hate when cyanoacrylate covering my fingertips
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OOoooooooohhhhhh!!
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Oh baby, Oh baby, Oh baby!!!!

Lookin' great, Szmyk, you are doing a great job!
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Thanks guys!!
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your making this look way to easy! are you planning a brass or chrome cutwater trim on the stem..
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your making this look way to easy! are you planning a brass or chrome cutwater trim on the stem..
The hull will be stained with deep mahogany dye above the waterline, below will be green dye to expose the wood grains.
Cutwater and all metal works will be in polished brass.
I hope it will look good..
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You hope it will look good??

Granted... it already does.. '

As before stated it is superb....
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Outstanding model. The design is beautiful and I'll bet she'll go like the wind. Very nice work. Pete
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