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Old Feb 23, 2011, 12:20 AM
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Was it Geek or Mog? We flew with Birdworks Steve this past summer and I'm sure he said Mog. Maybe it was both. Either way the man has some impressive DS skills.
Pretty sure it was called 'Geek' otherwise I used a wrong name in an review for the Aufwind in 1998.

Thomas
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Old Feb 23, 2011, 06:49 AM
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Surprised nobody brought up the Canterbury sail planes Jazz ( or did I miss it ). It`s what got me started in slopeing back in the 90`s
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Old Feb 23, 2011, 08:34 AM
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The Jazz Xtreme is on my wanted thread. is that the same or at least related? Regretfully, I know even less about non-US contributions to the cause. I did buy a Phase 6 from Wiltshire Model Centre when I was back in the UK in the 80's. I'm not completely US'centric.

Thomas, that is excellent. Thank You.
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Old Feb 23, 2011, 08:51 AM
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Don't know if they've ever made it to the US but I'd just like to add the Telink Tempest to this look at EPP flying wings. One of the few aeroplane kits I've ever bought (in reality, I was more sold it rather than me buying it...) but they are IMHO, great - 6'ish span, decent performance and splits into 2 parts for easy transport. Only thing I did was to carbon skin the elevons - they're rather large for just tape covering.

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Old Feb 23, 2011, 09:21 AM
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Geek

Birdworks made both a Geek and a MOG. Geek was the smaller version and the MOG (Mother of Geek) was larger. Both planks flew well and were a durable design that could resist many slope "arrivals".

I think the Mark Navarre flying wing was called "The Ratchet" or "Air Ratchet", or something like that.....

Keith
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Old Feb 23, 2011, 12:49 PM
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2 from Australia from the beginning of the 90's was the Vector and the Taipan ,the Jazz 48"
from NZ was the extreme so yes its the same wing. Of course a later Australian make is the Duck from Wowings . There was another one that came out about the same time as Klaus Weiss's Vector, but there was controversy over its design origins however the name escapes me just now.I also was flying foam in the late 80's with my plank design called the Sawtooth which went through all those EPS ,EPS EPP L/edge Full EPP.No computer mixing then it was 3 servo's or you'd mix using a sliding tray ,which separated the elevator from the ailerons , but it was only sold to a small number of people. Its now kitted in NZ however with my permission of course. anyway that's my input. Oh almost forgot , another reasonably early entry from down here but I believe it was a l late 90's early 2000 was the Fatboy wing ,although the web page is gone I notice one of the LHS is still selling the kit today.
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Old Feb 23, 2011, 02:28 PM
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I would love to see some history on the boomerang. I had the epp leading edge then blue foam version. Flew like a dream in light lift and incredible durable.
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Old Feb 25, 2011, 08:34 PM
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I would love to see some history on the boomerang. I had the epp leading edge then blue foam version. Flew like a dream in light lift and incredible durable.
I still keep an all EPP version for just the reasons you say. I'd like to know what made them so much better than many of the others.

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Old Feb 25, 2011, 10:25 PM
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First EPP plane ever built, Bowman's Roughneck

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I found this thread, coincidentally enough, called the History of EPP.
Looks like the first EPP plane was "The Roughneck" designed and built by Pat Bowman.
Does anyone have a pic of the Roughneck? I guess it's not a flying wing but important nonetheless.
I agree, Pat Bowman introducing EPP into our hobby was very important in the evolution of the sport of combat as well as just learning to fly rc gliders in general. Here's a couple of video stills from Pat Bowman's interview in Lift Ticket. He and Joe Wurts share some stories about the early days of EPP while holding the worlds first glider that was ever built using EPP foam. The cleaner looking model in Pat's left hand is what the Ruffneck eventually evolved into, the Comanche.
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Old Feb 25, 2011, 10:36 PM
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Joe came to Lilly's one day with that ruffneck. We were all realllly into combat back then. He got a lot of action that day, everybody wanted a piece of him.
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Old Feb 25, 2011, 10:55 PM
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Any background info about my wing
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6'epp combat wing
Rescued it out of the rafters of the local hobby shop for 1/3 of the original price.




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Old Feb 26, 2011, 12:05 AM
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Made by Bob Kennedy. Larger version of the Protage. I think it was higher aspect than the smaller ones. That one still looks brand new.
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Old Feb 26, 2011, 12:10 AM
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Any background info about my wing
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6'epp combat wing
Rescued it out of the rafters of the local hobby shop for 1/3 of the original price.




A local down here has that wing, and it's also covered in silver. Pretty decent performer and tough to take down, but it's fun to try ...
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Old Feb 26, 2011, 12:11 AM
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A Ruffneck has a high wing, and an offset vertical stab. .......
I actually have Bowman's very first original Ruffneck, the first EPP plane built as far as I know. It's the plane Pat and Joe are holding in the photos above. He gave it to me when he was cleaning out his garage before he moved. It's in rough shape but I couldn't let this little piece of history get tossed in the trash.

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Old Feb 26, 2011, 01:18 AM
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This is really cool to me! Thanks all for your contributions.
The Roughneck, what a tapeball!!
Add that BarraCuda to my list.
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