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Old Aug 31, 2003, 06:48 PM
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Fortunately the barely liquid glop an SR needs for fuel isn't available to just anyone.
Not much danger of one flying, ever.
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Old Aug 31, 2003, 06:57 PM
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The SR71

Just how much did they leak on the ground? I saw a documentry once and it appeared to be pouring out?

Also didn't the metal get harder each time they flew with all the heat treatment???

Definately not a French design LOL
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Old Aug 31, 2003, 07:11 PM
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An easy one but!

What did it originate from?
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Old Aug 31, 2003, 07:45 PM
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Re: An easy one but!

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What did it originate from?
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C-82. "Flight of the PhoeniX"... Didn't this one kill Frank Tallman? (with the assistance of a snootful of Jim Beam?)
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Old Aug 31, 2003, 07:53 PM
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The SR71

Just how much did they leak on the ground? I saw a documentry once and it appeared to be pouring out?

Also didn't the metal get harder each time they flew with all the heat treatment???

Definately not a French design LOL
I have a photo around here of one leaking on the tarmac while waiting for us to get out of its way.
For a real leak, we filled Tristar 1001 with JP-4 at Andrews AFB. Usually we use Jet-1. JP-4 is much thinner, and came out like rain!
Titanium is so hard just naturally any heat treatment hardening probably wouldn't be noticeable.
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I recall hearing that at Georgia on the C-130 line one of the mechanics asked an engineer what the difference was with these "new" wings... Drilling holes for the fasteners, the drills slipped right on thru the machined skin planks, while previously it required a lot of pressure on the drill motor, and bits didn't last long at all.
Upon investigation... (some engineers would have sloughed off the question) to everyone's horror it was determined that several wing sets had NOT been heat treated after machining to size, and had been assembled into airplanes!
Oi!
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Old Aug 31, 2003, 07:53 PM
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Not a C-82 and Frank Tallman was supposed to fly it but broke a knee before hand resulting in an amputated leg. Paul Mantz died.
So for extra points what were the aircraft parts and what aircraft took over for the filming?
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Old Aug 31, 2003, 08:01 PM
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Did any of those wings result in Herc prangs? I seem to remember hearing of wing failures on Hercs.

Cam Wylies electric Hercs look great, http://www.aefa.asn.au/geardown.htm
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Old Aug 31, 2003, 08:06 PM
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Here's a pic

All foam and kitted still as far as I know.
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Old Aug 31, 2003, 08:42 PM
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An easy one but

BennyLaird

I think it was made from a C-119.
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Old Aug 31, 2003, 08:46 PM
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Close but no cigar
The C-82/C-119 where portrayed but the actual aircraft was built from other aircraft parts.
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Old Aug 31, 2003, 08:50 PM
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The replacement

This is the one used after the first one expired.
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Old Aug 31, 2003, 11:09 PM
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Burp!

Some of that fuel perhaps?
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Old Sep 01, 2003, 12:12 AM
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That's what 17974 did to break its back the next year at Farnborough..
BTW, enhancing the image brings out a lot of detail....
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Old Sep 01, 2003, 04:00 AM
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Close but no cigar
The C-82/C-119 where portrayed but the actual aircraft was built from other aircraft parts.
Benny
According to this site they started with a C 82, The first Phoenix was made from parts of a Beech C-45 and a T-6,and when it crashed, they used an O 47...
http://stripe.colorado.edu/~steinerd/Phoenix.html

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Old Sep 01, 2003, 03:25 PM
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Back at "Planes of Fame", this one flies now..
Sorry Sparky Paul but this particular O-bird was destroyed in the early to mid eighties. The pilot forgot to lower the gear and the airplane was consumed by the ensuing fire! The O-47 currently undergoing rebuild at Planes of Fame is a different bird entirely. I believe it was recovered from a swamp. As a point of interest, the SB2C Helldiver in the background is the one that now flies with the CAF. The P-59 is the same airplane currently under restoration and they have removed the second cockpit. Plans are to fly the airplane but I think the restoration has slowed considerably as PoF is concentrating on a new museum complex. They were also moving forward with returning their B-17 to flight status which, rumour has it, is a priority project. Last I heard the Douglas Skyshark was with a gentleman who wanted to restore it to flyable condition but obtaining a powerplant and propellors is a MAJOR hurdle. Not to mention the bird was notoriously unreliable when everything was brand new! Last but not least, the ME-262 is now with Paul Allen's Flying Heritage Collection. (sold to help finance the afforementioned expansion) I believe it has been issued a civil registration but most do not think Mr. Allen is serious about operating the airplane once it is restored. At least they hope not!
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