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Old Sep 16, 2003, 04:00 AM
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A crop-duster
(These things all look the same to me - ugly ugly ugly. )
Embraer EMB201A Ipanema
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Old Sep 16, 2003, 04:41 AM
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Cool - thanks. Now if that will work full size I might be able to convinve the museum here to restore their J.1
I've heard of a guy using individual spaghetti strands-might want to make sure there's no mice in the museum...




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What the Stuka should have been.
Breda 201 Picchiatelli-prototype dive bomber (a copy of the JU 87)-two built but problems sourcing DB 601 engines so no series production.
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Old Sep 16, 2003, 04:54 AM
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Intended for a seaplane carrier that never carried any seaplanes...
I've found quite a bit about seaplane carriers-Wei Sheng class-scuttled in 1937-but nothing about this plane-most of the sites I've visited mention US/Russian/Italian planes in Chinese service but I cant find this one

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Old Sep 16, 2003, 02:04 PM
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Breda 201 Picchiatelli-prototype dive bomber (a copy of the JU 87)-two built but problems sourcing DB 601 engines so no series production.
The available engines were probably reserved for the fighters. I have heard the Italians had some problems with their engine production levels and they ended up relying heavily on the Germans.

That it is - very cleaned up from the 87 though.
I don't know if I would say it was a copy, perhaps more of a derivitive or development.

The Chinese biplane is the Nin Hai of 1933. I doubt many were built even with the aircraft supply problems the Chinese were facing, as it was very slow.
http://www.angelfire.com/sports/aero...930_ninhai.htm
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Old Sep 16, 2003, 04:37 PM
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Sorry Fellas

Lost our connection yesterday so couln't get on. Seems ok now but I have a 2 day course to teach so will just get on at lunch to check up on you lol.

The skinning was in the Nov/Dec 94 copy of Electric Flight Magazine and it looks great on the Handley Page HP42 Helena with 4 Graupner 600's.

The tool was something like this?
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Old Sep 16, 2003, 04:40 PM
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And for all the Aussies out there don't miss ABC tonight 8.30.
They have the Dambusters special on......
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Old Sep 16, 2003, 08:55 PM
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My first though when I saw it was British Ercoupe?

I think every aircraft this company did was obscure. This is the third of their designs to be posted here.
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Old Sep 16, 2003, 09:13 PM
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This one begs the question - why? What use could this aircraft have been, and fixed gear?
Very appropriately named.

Funnily enough when I was researching this I found an MS FS model of this thing, and a French discussion similar to this one, but from last year. I will post the URL for it when someone identifies this thing.
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Old Sep 16, 2003, 09:17 PM
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Hmmm would have to be named Dog then??? Or a French name? LOL
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Old Sep 16, 2003, 09:19 PM
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What the...
I've been hanging out in the ugly British section of the web so here's another...
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Old Sep 16, 2003, 09:30 PM
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Hmmm would have to be named Dog then??? Or a French name? LOL
It was so bad that even the aircraft that beat it out for production was withdrawn before the war was even over.

Here's one so obscure I probably wouldn't have been able to identify it had it not already been named. (I have never heard of the company before)
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Old Sep 16, 2003, 09:34 PM
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I saw a drawing of it recently have to go back through my history and try and find it.

The "Dog" looks to have a lot of power and STOL wings but just guessing.
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Old Sep 16, 2003, 09:41 PM
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Not a Mystery

The tag was stuck in mud but it looks like sand to me, I just like the pic
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Old Sep 16, 2003, 09:44 PM
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Hmm Siebel rings a bell, just off looking though.
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Old Sep 16, 2003, 09:51 PM
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No Siebels
The 'Dog' did indeed have a lot of power, and a variable incidence wing to boot.
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