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Old Feb 26, 2011, 12:05 AM
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So far as Ales recommendations goes, I am really liking the Fat Tire offerings.


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Old Feb 26, 2011, 08:03 AM
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The last few days I've been flying my Playboy old timer. With a 3S pack, I can get it to 200m in 30, it floats as good as the allegro, and I seem to also be able to land it better. It might become my ALES ship.
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Old Feb 26, 2011, 10:42 PM
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They do have removable noses.

Tired of screwing and unscrewing, I just sliced a canopy from the cone. Some fiber and epoxy laminated around the hole where the canopy can rest. A 2 mm carbon rod attached to the center of the canopy fixes it to the cone

It works a treat!

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Could you please post a few pictures? That would be appreciated

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Old Feb 28, 2011, 04:28 PM
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The last few days I've been flying my Playboy old timer. With a 3S pack, I can get it to 200m in 30, it floats as good as the allegro, and I seem to also be able to land it better. It might become my ALES ship.
This format is exactly what those old timer planes were designed for. Single power to altitude phase, then transition to thermal hunter. I have been looking at a few old timer designs with the same thought, cool looking ALES plane. This is one I am considering, it would of course have an electric motor and a folding prop.

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Old Feb 28, 2011, 07:08 PM
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Yes, the cobra is a cool plane.

The one big drawback to my playboy is the complete lack of penetrating capability. I got her way up high the other day, and although ground winds were around 6 to 8 mph, up high they were more like 12-15 mph. My 34 oz. Playboy was flying backwards faster than I could bring it down. I had to relight just to get it back to the field!
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Old Feb 28, 2011, 07:48 PM
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Yep, that is the advantage to more modern sailplanes, they can fly in wind. But on a nice calm day the old timers are great fun.

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Old Feb 28, 2011, 10:03 PM
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Yes, the cobra is a cool plane.

The one big drawback to my playboy is the complete lack of penetrating capability. I got her way up high the other day, and although ground winds were around 6 to 8 mph, up high they were more like 12-15 mph. My 34 oz. Playboy was flying backwards faster than I could bring it down. I had to relight just to get it back to the field!

'Round these parts we seem to be calling 6-8mph "calm". I seem to go flying any time the forecast winds are less than 10mph which means more like 12-15mph at GL with speeds closer to 20-25mph at the end of the high start. Winds are typically strong enough to make the wind sock stand straight out at the Kittyhawk grass strip near my house.

That said, that Cobra is one *seriously* kick-butt looking model! If winds here weren't as high we would probably see more Old Timers around than we do in the N. TX area. Those folks that I've talked to that do fly Old Timers seem to fly only a few times a year but I may be wrong here. I can say there have been times when I've landed my Sophisticated Lady like an AV-8B.

Even my Chrysalis isn't immune to local winds. On the Crysalis' maiden the hi-start didn't come off the tow hook for some reason. I flew a couple circles then the wind increased slightly which basically let me fly it in place from 50ft to landing. Of course the tow ring was laying next to the airplane when I retrieved it so I still don't know exactly what happened but it flew off the hi-start and later the winch with no further incident. I did make a few more vertical landings though.
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Old Mar 01, 2011, 04:14 PM
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Pulsar do have removable noses.

Tired of screwing and unscrewing, I just sliced a canopy from the cone. Some fiber and epoxy laminated around the hole where the canopy can rest. A 2 mm carbon rod attached to the center of the canopy fixes it to the cone

It works a treat!

Monhty
Here are some photos of the canopy-Pulsar
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Old Mar 19, 2011, 09:43 PM
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Best ALES Sailplane?

This 'best' question often gets asked when it comes to sailplanes, often by guys who have yet to keep any sailplane up for more than 5 minutes.

In the competition arena we refer to that model as 'excalibur' but recently its been renamed "the red sailplane". The model that extends your flights 'for' the pilot because of its nifty airfoil or lack of airframe weight. Guys will spend that $2k+ and wait for months to get one of those....never stopping to think that feathers weigh almost nothing yet fall directly to the ground when released.

If the guy asking were a top thermal competition pilot the discussion would be based on handling characteristics, launching, and landing handling. The same kind of conversation would be held by top piano, violin or guitar players....and the parameters would have no meaning to the average players.

I think the big mistake that is made by guys lookiing for advice on which new ship to spend their money on is that they don't ask theirselves what it is they want from their model...or what they expect the model to do for them...and if they did buy the red excalibur, are they heading into the season with hopes of winning trophies.

ALES is not fun flying, its competition soaring. Flying for scores. If you are in that top group of pilots who can keep a barn up for 8 hours, then things like light weight are the least of their interests...yes they want 'ability' but they also want durability..you can win if its broke all the time.

You don't need a full house ship to win ALES, in fact likely you put yourself at a disadvantage, because when you move up into a full house ship, you have that many more ways to make mistakes. A full house ship transfers ALL the flying from the model to the pilot.

Don't buy a model because you think it will help you win a contest, by it because it turns you on...makes you smile every time you assemble it.

Don't buy it because its a hundred or two less, because it will always be 'less' in your mind. Wait a few pay checks then get the model you want.

And if you really want to have fun, do what Dion suggested, build your own model.

What will I be flying in ALES....not sure yet. Going to wait to see if ALES actually becomes a class. Likely I won't fly in events that allow restartable ALES switches, just too much opportunity for questions.

We'll see :-)
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Old May 02, 2011, 05:35 PM
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Since I started this thread I thought I'd share the final result. My Helium from Stevens AeroModel is finally flight ready. Specs : 25 oz flying weight with 3s 2100 lipo, Hacker A30-28s, 9x6 folder, CC Phoenix 35, CAM altitude limiter, Futaba 617 rx, Hitec 65/56 servos, Ultracote Lite covering. I'm using a Futaba 8FG with the motor on a 3 position switch (off-1/2-full throttle) and the spoiler on the left stick.

The only mod made was to cover the balsa bottom from the firewall to hatch with 1/64 ply for landing protection since the kit landing gear was not used.

From a power system standpoint a smaller/lighter lipo would work but due to the hatch location said lipo couldn't balance the plane. With the 2100 lipo I'll be able to take 1 battery to the field and get multiple flights.

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Old May 02, 2011, 05:44 PM
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I just maidened my E-Ava Climbs like a homesick angel with a mega, 4/1 gearbox and a 16/10 prop. Oh and its RES.

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Old May 03, 2011, 12:41 AM
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So you're sayin' you're likely to get to 200M before 30 seconds eh? Contest, here we come!
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Old May 03, 2011, 12:48 AM
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Since I started this thread I thought I'd share the final result. My Helium from Stevens AeroModel is finally flight ready. Specs : 25 oz flying weight with 3s 2100 lipo, Hacker A30-28s, 9x6 folder, CC Phoenix 35, CAM altitude limiter, Futaba 617 rx, Hitec 65/56 servos, Ultracote Lite covering. I'm using a Futaba 8FG with the motor on a 3 position switch (off-1/2-full throttle) and the spoiler on the left stick.

The only mod made was to cover the balsa bottom from the firewall to hatch with 1/64 ply for landing protection since the kit landing gear was not used.

From a power system standpoint a smaller/lighter lipo would work but due to the hatch location said lipo couldn't balance the plane. With the 2100 lipo I'll be able to take 1 battery to the field and get multiple flights.

Matt
I dropped a Castle Ice 50 in my Chrysalis 2M-E to do some data logging and see what my consumption was to better estimate how much battery I need to take to local contests. My power system is a E-Flite Park450 with a AeroNauth 11x7 folder and EspritModel EM-Sport 1800mAh 3S pack. With a full charge I made eight 30 second climbs and according to the ESC had consumed less than 1Ah with a peak current of 18.8A when the battery was fully charged. I'd say with a 2100mAh battery you can very safely fly all day. In a contest scenario I'll probably take two batteries. One to fly with and one as a "just in case" to guaranty I can fly.
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