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Old Jul 21, 2012, 09:22 PM
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I see.. to do that, I have to turn on the spektrum (when binding) with full throttle, isnīt it?

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Luis---I don't know about the throws but I do think that you need to disable the brake in the ESC...As a general rule, EDF's don't use the brake as that's a huge amount of RPM that is trying to be stopped quickly...

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Old Jul 21, 2012, 09:30 PM
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Kevin,

I got like 20 sheets of clear, and maybe 20 sheets of white, full size, 8 1/2"x11" decal paper, and I think it was $1.00 a sheet???? Problem is often the decal cracks when wetted, or the ink messed up when printing.....

Learned that with my brand, carful to wet just the backing paper and be patient (1 minute) before trying to slide off the finished decal worked better. Wetting the whole thing I think was the problem. I rarely use the real stuff now, so there is some going to be at my Estate Sale.

Luis,

My Spectrum binds with not full throttle. I turn on RX, the RX light starts blinking. I push button on rear of TX, and turn on the TX while holding that button. Then you release the button and wait then the RX light goes solid. Remove bind plug or you will lose the bind. I have the DX 7.

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Old Jul 21, 2012, 09:34 PM
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I see.. to do that, I have to turn on the spektrum (when binding) with full throttle, isnīt it?
Not when binding---Just turn on your TX, go to full throttle and then turn on the RX...You will enter the programming mode for the ESC...

You need to know the settings on your ESC so that you can count the beeps to enter the programming mode and to go to the proper menu to set the brake..

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Old Jul 21, 2012, 09:45 PM
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Kevin,

I got like 20 sheets of clear, and maybe 20 sheets of white, full size, 8 1/2"x11" decal paper, and I think it was $1.00 a sheet???? Problem is often the decal cracks when wetted, or the ink messed up when printing.....

Learned that with my brand, carful to wet just the backing paper and be patient (1 minute) before trying to slide off the finished decal worked better. Wetting the whole thing I think was the problem. I rarely use the real stuff now, so there is some going to be at my Estate Sale.

Luis,

My Spectrum binds with not full throttle. I turn on RX, the RX light starts blinking. I push button on rear of TX, and turn on the TX while holding that button. Then you release the button and wait then the RX light goes solid. Remove bind plug or you will lose the bind. I have the DX 7.

Fred
Thanks for the info Fred!!!...

I've been on the 'net studying several possibilties to get the decals done on the decal paper...I've come to the conclusion that IJP's don't work as well as Laser printers...The inks on the IJP printed decals can tend to run when exposed to water...My home brew solution is to lightly spray the freshly printed IJP decal with Krylon flat clear in mist coats, sealing the decal before exposing to water...This should seal the IJP ink...

I contacted FedEx/Kinkos today and they can print my decals on a laser printer for .59 cents/sheet...Printed via a Laser printer should negate the necessity to seal the decals when printed on decal paper...

Waduya think???...

For the record---Your printed decals on tissue paper are da BOMB!!!...I'm only trying to keep the labor hours down as I have two boys to tend to (11 & 6 years old) and I'm 50 years old......I grab time to build models when I can...

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Old Jul 21, 2012, 09:50 PM
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Kevin,

The tissue decals ARE misted with Krylon (it says so but it is a big thread). All you see in the thread are decals done with IJ printers, with the ink, but enough Krylon and it is fine. Don't over do the application glue. I did some lazer, that is good, but the best is the Epson inks, they are pigmented and now my favorite. Maybe you need a new printer soon, hint, hint?

You can actually get the tissue type done as fast as the decal paper type, because they need to be sealed too BTW.

Fred (family calling).

PS. 5 kids, 2 still here, with a 16 month old Grandbaby too, I'm 55!
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Kevin,

The tissue decals ARE misted with Krylon (it says so but it is a big thread). All you see are IJ printers, with the ink, but enough rylon and it is fine. Don't over do the application glue. I did some lazer, that is good, but the best is the Epson inks, they are pigmented and now my favorite. Maybe you need a new printer soon, hint, hint?

You can actually get the tissue type done fast as the decal paper type, because they need to be sealed too BTW.

Fred (family calling).

PS. 5 kids, 2 still here, with a 16 month old Grandbaby too, I'm 55!
Ahhh---Boomerang kids..Ya throw them out and then they come right back!!!...(As grandkids, whatever).........

I just bought a new Kodak printer as they advertise that their inks are the lowest cost...Since it's a wifi printer I just hit print where ever I am in the house on the laptop and go retrieve the copies...I'm not going to invest in a higher cost Epson printer when I can get FedEx/Kinkos to print high quality copies for 59 cents......

I'll need to try your tissue decals as I am looking for alternatives on those cold winter nights when I have nothing to do...Right now I have with my boys golf practice, baseball, soccer, and flag football...I coach a few of these sports as well as being handicapped...(Ever seen a one legged 50 year old man kick a soccer ball 50 yards or a 45 yard field goal???.....Can you say George Blanda!!?!??!!!...One of my legs is toast due to a wreck)...I keep telling myself that I'm going to one day cut off the "dead leg" and enter the Para-Olympics with a carbon fiber limb---(I was a 10.5 100 yard sprinter in high school as well as jumping 21 + feet in the long jump...Went to the Junior Olympics as a 15 year old and took 3rd place in a mile relay)...

Anyway---Trying to keep up with young kids is tough!!!...As well as keeping up with all of the cool things that you come up with, Fred!!!....(I still can't get over no plans for the F-84!!!)...

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Old Jul 21, 2012, 11:23 PM
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I got a little more done on the T-45 this evening...Servos installed as well as the stabs...Going to make the turtledeck next and get the pushrods done...

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Old Jul 22, 2012, 12:30 AM
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Looking great Kevin. I am fearful that you won't get the midnight deadline done. It is not a race, so don't sweat the small stuff. Look who's talking though, I always put large demands on myself.

Did someone mention plans? What's that, LOL. All you need is some shop drawings, a calculator, a three view, and a Sharpie, right?

Ok got to go before I get myself in trouble over here! Keep up the good work!

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Old Jul 22, 2012, 09:40 AM
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Looking great Kevin. I am fearful that you won't get the midnight deadline done. It is not a race, so don't sweat the small stuff. Look who's talking though, I always put large demands on myself.

Did someone mention plans? What's that, LOL. All you need is some shop drawings, a calculator, a three view, and a Sharpie, right?

Ok got to go before I get myself in trouble over here! Keep up the good work!

Fred
Nope---Didn't make the deadline---It was 11:23PM when I made my last post...I probably would have come a little closer but unexpected company showed up for a little while...

I'm more of a plans kinda guy---At least to get the proper outline/shape and to physically see how large/small the project is and adjust from there...Internals kinda just take shape as I go along with the build...

Gotta go, too!!!...The wife is wondering why I'm on the computer instead of getting ready for church.......

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Old Jul 22, 2012, 04:43 PM
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Luis, did you get instructions with your ESC on how to enter and set the programming features?

Kevin, looking good!

I've been grounded while working on home projects. The house is being neglected as is certain reno's I should have done years ago so there's a bit of a blitz going on here at the moment. First up is to complete building another room behind my hobby room. Poor muscles... they forgot what hard work is and have been letting me me know about it too! LOL
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Old Jul 22, 2012, 04:44 PM
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Working some more this afternoon....I enlarged the intakes to compensate for my larger 30mm fan that will be run on 3S...I'm going to initially fly it without adding a cheater hole to see how it goes...Also, I manipulated (shaped) the intake runners within the fuselage to accomodate more air...Instead of just letting the intake runners take their own shape when bending the Depron I contoured the inner walls so that they followed the outer walls, eliminating any air pinch points...

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Next, I added 2mm Depron strips within the horizontal stabs next to the stab pivots...I didn't feel comfortable mounting the control horns without filling in the hollow stabs where the control horns are mounted...You can see the strips faintly when held up to a light...

I REALLY like the control horns I selected...They are light and have a "keeper" for the long center barb...After installing the horns/keepers using glue you trim the barb to leave about 1/16" exposed..Using a soldering iron you melt the barb flush with the keeper creating a very solid feeling control horn...

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Old Jul 22, 2012, 04:56 PM
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Last shot for now shows the finished control horns...

Now, on to getting the control rods made up...

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Old Jul 22, 2012, 06:16 PM
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Getting the control rods made...

I'm using .032 wire and hardware for this wire...I found some nylon tubing for industrial IJP's that carries the ink to the print head..Fits EXACTLY to the .032 wire!!!...I also found some coffee stirring tubes that EXACTLY fit the OD of the nylon tube...What luck!!!...I now have the proper snakes to keep the control rods stiff...

Here is a pic of the setup...

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Old Jul 22, 2012, 06:18 PM
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Friends,

Itīs READY!

After years of waiting and following the thread and disturbing Dave...
Yes, it has some adjustments to go: like programming the break of the esc, see the angles of the tailerons, if they are correct, see the weight.. but... itīs ready! It has 86gr, complete, heavy?
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