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Old Nov 24, 2011, 11:13 AM
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Flydumini - turnigy plush 10A

Hi,

has anybody tried the flydumini with the turnigy plush 10A-ESC? I'm waiting for the plush 6A at Hobbyking now quite long but they're still not available. But the 10A are available...
But the reviews at HK are not too good
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Old Nov 24, 2011, 11:24 AM
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Wouldn't it be better to start a new thread for the flydumini discussion?!
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1543138

started one so that it would not over contaminate here.......

as i have plenty to ask regards to help with this little bird, perhaps some of the more experienced can help with questions and tips/hints?
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Old Nov 24, 2011, 12:47 PM
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FlyduMini the Second

After the FlyduMini with the proto frame flies quite reasonable, I have a second 2.4 mm with the stronger frame construction.

List of materials:
- 1 x 2.4 mm Flydumini Frame
- 4x Hexatronik 10g Brushless Outrunner Motors
- 4x FlyFun 6A ESC from Hobbywing
- 1x ITG 3205
- 1x BMA020
- 1x 7-channel Deltang Rx32 of SUM-PPM - (Spectrum compatible)
- 1x landing skid from the TRex 250
- 1x 2S 7.4 V/800mAh
- 4x 2-blade 5x3 props CW and CCW
- 4x 3 LED stripes (red and yellow / orange)

I screwed the arrow under the frame, as a direction indicator (in the vicinity;-)) and as a lipo-holder.
Electronic coverage as of I've built a plate from a disused packaging.

I tested with MWC v1.8p2, with original values, but did not bring back the stable flight.

Values ​​halved and therefore re-tested, that's better but still not good enough.

ITG and BMA against one of 6DOF Drotek exchanged, and changes recorded test flight, ... anderst not, as might be expected.

Propeller balanced again and see ... will fly the bird.

So back down the 6DOF and my team ITG piggyback mounted on BMA.

No matter what you do, I'm repeating myself here, A and O is the balancing of the propeller, just come to the vibration gyro you've lost. A lot of double sided tape brings no improvement, rather deteriorates the whole.

Even if I give in the arms of the frames fly without reinforcement (carbon rods or other), both the frame nor the Black Proto-Mini.

The landing gear I'll still make a little lower, otherwise return a TOP Copter

Thanks to Paul.
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Nachdem der FlyduMini mit dem Protoframe ganz vernünftig fliegt, habe ich einen zweiten mit dem stärkeren 2,4mm Frame gebaut.

Materialliste:
- 1x 2,4mm Flydumini Frame
- 4x Hexatronik 10g Brushless Outrunner Motoren
- 4x 6A FlyFun ESC von Hobbywing
- 1x ITG 3205
- 1x BMA020
- 1x Rx32 von Deltang 7-Kanal SUM-PPM (Spektrum kompatible)
- 1x Landegestell vom TRex 250
- 1x 2S 7,4V/800mAh
- 4x 2-blade CW und CCW 5x3 Props
- 4x 3 LED Stripes (rot und gelb/orange)

Den Pfeil habe ich unter das Frame geschraubt, als Richtungsanzeige (im Nahbereich ;-) ) und als Lipo-Halter.
Als Abdeckung der Electronic habe ich eine Plate gebaut aus einer ausgedienten Verpackung.

Getestet habe ich mit MWC v1.8p2, mit Originalwerten, das brachte aber wieder nicht den stabilen Flug.

Werte deshalb halbiert und nochmals getestet, schon besser aber noch nicht gut genug.

ITG und BMA gegen ein 6DOF von Drotek getauscht, Änderungen eingespielt und Testflug, ... auch nicht anderst, wie zu erwarten war.

Propeller noch einmal gewuchtet und siehe ... schon fliegt der Vogel.

Also wieder den 6DOF runter und mein Huckepack Gespann ITG auf BMA montiert.

Egal was ihr macht, ich wiederhole mich hier, A und O ist das auswuchten der Propeller, kommen erst Vibrationen zum Gyro habt ihr verspielt. Viel doppelseitiges Klebeband bringt auch keine Besserung, eher Verschlechtert sich das Ganze.

Auch wenn die Arme des Frames nachgeben ich fliege ohne Verstärkung (Carbonstäbe oder sonstiges) sowohl das Protoframe noch den Black-Mini.

Das Landegestell werde ich noch etwas flacher machen, ansonsten wieder ein TOP Copter

Dank an Paul.
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Old Nov 24, 2011, 02:47 PM
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Hi,

has anybody tried the flydumini with the turnigy plush 10A-ESC? I'm waiting for the plush 6A at Hobbyking now quite long but they're still not available. But the 10A are available...
But the reviews at HK are not too good
Hi olaf.j

Black Mantis ESC were fine too (http://www.giantcod.co.uk/black-mant...-402902.html); you can program the motor rotation (comes handy!) - but, be shure the buy the programming card too!

Rgds
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Old Nov 24, 2011, 03:08 PM
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Hi,

is it possible that i burned mag and baro on my drotek 10dof, because i connected 5V FTDI to my mega board?
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Old Nov 24, 2011, 03:08 PM
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Hi Olaf,

I have only ever used Turnigy Plush 10A esc's on all my copters
(Tri/Quad/hex) over the last 2 years.

I have never had a problem in use, never had a D.O.A.
The only mod I do is to remove one of the piggy backed BEC's from the PCB to lower the profile. The Hobby wing equivalent is identical except it only comes with 1 BEC on the board.... Same manufacturer.

I would be dubious of the few bad reviews, if you scan further down, you will see they are well received. I must have bought about 40 of them now, never had a bad one... still I have never tried to draw too much current from them and also taken the time to set them up. The one review saying it smoked when plugging the programming card in the wrong way is suspect. I have done this loads of times... no problem . Same as plugging a servo the wrong way into a RX.. unless the centre pin was changed from positive, it can't cause an issue.

The new 12A versions are the same size as the 10A.. (they used to be bigger).

I have used the 10A on my mini.. I'll add a picture soon Actually, there are 2 x Turnigy plush 10A and 2 x Hobbywing 10A.

Shaun
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Old Nov 24, 2011, 04:37 PM
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I have used the 10A on my mini.. I'll add a picture soon
Thank you for this information - looking forward to your picture
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Old Nov 25, 2011, 04:56 AM
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Hello. Please help me with choice of t-motor.
I have quad, with all equipment weight is 1300gr, 10inch prop and 18A ESC.
Old motor was rc-timer 2830-14 750kv.
Which of tiger motor best suitable for me?
Thank you very much for help.
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Old Nov 25, 2011, 05:26 AM
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Hi,

is it possible that i burned mag and baro on my drotek 10dof, because i connected 5V FTDI to my mega board?
Did you connect 5V supply voltage or did you connect the I2C bus to 5V?

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Old Nov 25, 2011, 05:31 AM
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Did you connect 5V supply voltage or did you connect the I2C bus to 5V?

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I conected 5V usb-FTDI board to flyduino mega and since i assume that my mag and baro are not working properly. I will try to re-upload the software and calibrate everything again.
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Old Nov 25, 2011, 06:00 AM
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Hello. Please help me with choice of t-motor.
I have quad, with all equipment weight is 1300gr, 10inch prop and 18A ESC.
Old motor was rc-timer 2830-14 750kv.
Which of tiger motor best suitable for me?
Thank you very much for help.
MT2216 i guess, Rosewood made some tests, exellent results with 10".
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Old Nov 25, 2011, 06:52 AM
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I conected 5V usb-FTDI board to flyduino mega and since i assume that my mag and baro are not working properly. I will try to re-upload the software and calibrate everything again.
Hi Farmer_Joe,

you must supply your Drotek IMU with 3.3V! Be shure to disable the internal pull-ups if you don't use a LLC.

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Old Nov 25, 2011, 07:21 AM
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So that means that we cant use 5V FTDI with flyduino mega to configure the board.
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Old Nov 25, 2011, 10:27 AM
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sure you can, in any way the drotek needs 3.3V, you can mount a 3.3V regulator set on the mini, then you are fine.
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Old Nov 25, 2011, 01:17 PM
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My Flydumini is finished.

Esc's are 2 x Hobbywing and 2 x Turnigy 10A ( same manufacturer except Turnigy has 2 becs per esc, double current capacity)
Rx is a Spektrum 6300 Nanolite ( 2g) Finished weight is 148g.
WMP only, may put a BMA020 depending on how it flies.
Could loose a little more weight with lighter prop adaptors and will probably use 2 plade props, the 3 blade GWS are very poor.. I've balanced them and there is still excessive viabration, but I haven't put the frame stiffners on yet..

Thanks Paul a brilliant project.... Flyduminihex next please !!!

Shaun
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