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Old Jan 28, 2011, 03:27 PM
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The XAircraft X450/X450 Pro Quadcopter (DIY & FPV Platform) owners thread

XAircraft: A bird's-eye view of the world.


XAircraft X450 is a RC Quadcopter designed for DIYers who have the hobby in AP/AV and FPV.
It has the same flight system as X650, can easily support your own frame, quad, Hexa, Y6, Octa or X8, and can support pan/tilt camera mount with shutter control, no need to add any self balancing system(with gyros) for your mount.

Almost Redeay To Fly
* Easy to assembly
* Cross Style Flight(Xstyle) by default
* only some function test is needed on soft ground before flying
* support Hover Mode and Cruise Mode, and can be swithed in the air
* 4chn rx is enough for fly, more than 6 chn is recommended
* Maximum Gross Take-Off Weight: 1400g. DO NOT OVERLOAD ON X650 WHICH CAN LEAD TO DANGER.

FC1212-S and AHRS-S auto-stabilization sytem, AP/AV based, with good expand-ability, suit for DIY.
FC1212-S flight controller with Camera Mount Compensation outputs :
* 12 input ports, can support 12chn RX at max.
* 8 motor outputs, can be configured to quad, Y6, hexa, X8 and octa.
* 4 servo outputs for camera mounts, fit for single sharft, pan & tilt, or 3-axial camera mount with shutter control servo.
* Modular designed, good expandability. besides one port for AHRS module, extra 4 ports for expanding, GPS module will be available soon.
* Firmware upgradable and a lot of parameters configurable with Powerful XAircraft Configuration software.

AHRS-S (attitude & heading system):
* 3 axial gyros & 3-axial accelerometer sensor based.
* Firmware upgradable.
* Can do the healthy check with XAircraft Configuration soft.
* one port for Compass, heading lock available.

Other modules:
* GPS, will be available April, 2011. Position Hold, Altitude Hold and GoHome features will be available.
. videos in dev:
. * Position Hold: http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjQ3NzQ3NTMy.html (with no Altitude Hold)
. * Position Hold: http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjQ3NzkxMjcy.html (with no Altitude Hold)
. * GoHome: http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjQ3ODI5NTk2.html
. * GoHome: http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjQ3ODA5NzA4.html
. * Altitude, Position, Heading Hold: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...postcount=3955 (Keep in optimization)
* wireless data link and ground station (in dev): http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjQ4NjAyMTA0.html


Contact Us
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* PM Jingchen on RCGroups for tech. support.
* Tech. support: support@xaircraft.com
* Service: service@xaircraft.com
* Biz: info@xaircraft.com


Where to buy?
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USA
cnchelicopter
http://www.cnchelicopter.com/servlet...650/Categories

USA
XAircraftUSA
http://xaircraftusa.com/
Email: lvlr_wright@yahoo.com

USA
John’W
http://www.rchobbyhelicopter.com/
Email: http://www.rchobbyhelicopter.com/

USA
All e RC
http://www.allerc.com/multi-rotor-he...c-332_349.html
Email: info@allerc.com
Phone: 480-456-4300

USA
BDPowers
http://bdpowers.com/multi-rotor-helis-c-8.html

UK
Geoff
http://www.quadcopters.co.uk
Email: sales@quadcopters.co.uk

UK
Mark
http://xaircraft.co.uk

Thailand
Kally
Email: shop@hobbythai.com

Italy
Alfo FIT
http://www.flighttech.it/Default.aspx

Brazil
Ulf
www.xaircraft.com.br
Email: ulfrainer@hotmail.com

Russia
Artem
http://www.xaircraft.ru
http://www.rcteam.ru
MSN: art.nitro@gmail.com
Email: art.nitro@gmail.com

Iran
Ali
Email: Ashooshtarian@gmail.com

Middle Europe
Alex
http://www.aerofpv.com
Email: sales@ercmarket.com
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Old Jan 28, 2011, 03:28 PM
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X450 Resources Index

Thanks all the pilots in this thread and X650 thread who were and are sharing the information and experiences that helped a lot of people.
X450 is using the same FC1212-S flight system as X650, a lot of useful information from X650 owners thread is included in the index

* X450 WIKI: http://www.xaircraft.com/wiki/X450(en)
* Configuration Software: http://www.xaircraft.com/wiki/XAircr...figuration(en)
* Configuration Software, Firmwares and settgins pack download: http://www.xaricraft.com/wiki/downloads(en)

FAQ
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Q: Connect Failed: Timeout
A: Might have pluged the 4 pin cable to the AHRS. the 4 pin cable has to be pluged to FC link port.
And someone have the problem that after a FC firmware upgrade, there's a timeout error message too. re-upgrade the FC with proper firmware can solve this problem.

Q: Connect Failed: Struct_AttitudeControlConfig has invalid length
A: It's telling your FC firmware is not match to the Configuration soft. After you update the software, and upgrade the FC firmware to the latest version, the problem will be solved.

Q: How to upgrade FC1212-S?
A: http://www.xaircraft.com/wiki/FC1212-S_Firmware_Upgrade.

Q: How to upgrade AHRS-S?
A: http://www.xaircraft.com/wiki/AHRS-S_Firmware_Upgrade

and here's a video about firmware upgrade made by Jeff(zirt57, a very kind person).


Q: Upgrade Failed! Reason: Wait_Bootloader_Startup_Timeout
A: Don't forget to unplug the 4 pin cable at the 2nd step and replug-in the 4 pin cable after you click the 'Upgrade' button. If you still got this failed message, then remove all wires from the module to upgrade(FC, AHRS or other upgradable module) and try again.

Q: How to do the RC Calibration?
A: http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjIyNzc1NDg0.html

Q: How to use the AHRS Calibration?
A: http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjIyNzY0MjY0.html

Q: How to make a screen shot?
A: for windows, there's a key named 'Prnt Scrn'(print screen) on the key board. when you press it, the whole screen will be in the clipboard, and you can paste it to any paint program like mspaint, photoshop etc. you also can press alt+prnt scrn to print the current activated window(not the whole screen). you can save the picture as a .jpg file(.bmp file is too huge for internet sharing).

Q: How to make a screen vidoe?
A: Here is a free soft for screen recording: http://camstudio.org/

Q: How to make video file to a smaller size?
A: *.avi video format is common for camera to use, it's very big size file. this free soft is easy to use: http://www.formatoz.com/index.html Mp4 format is recommended(some cameras are already support this format).

Q: How to get more efficient service?
A: besides product SN and description in details(weather, environment, operation and the aircraft motion etc), some pictures(photos, screen shots) and videos will help us easier to understand the problem you have.


Shared Videos
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YouTube Search: http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...XAircraft+X450

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Flight Tips & Experiences
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Q: What should I do after got the first XAircraft?
A: Follow the manual and assembly the copter to the default flight style. Then after do some test on the soft ground to see all the reactions for your stick operation is correct, go fly(maybe needs some trim on the radio). After being familiar to the X450, then go to configuration software to do the RC Calibration and AHRS Calibration for a better flight.

After fly in snow or wet weather.
After fly in snow or wet weather, it's a good idea to use a hair-drier to dry the electric parts to avoid burning because of the short circuit caused by the water.

how to balance the motor?
With motor balanced, the vibration will be less to the AHRS.
balancing motor rotor and open your ears... (2 min 30 sec)


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Resources for DIYer
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Notice: DIY frame need re-tune the motor settings(mixer) and PID parameters.

Q: How to use the Camera Outputs on FC1212-S?
A: Here's the video tutorial(X650 in the video): http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjI2MjA2NDY0.html

* Using normal ESC
. http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...postcount=1245

* Mixer Rules:
. http://www.xaircraft.com/wiki/FC1212-S_Motor_Mixer(en)

* PID Recources:
. * Thanks Josh for re-description: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...&postcount=122
. * http://www.expertune.com/tutor.html

* DIY X8
. * Thanks Jeff for always forwarding the video from China: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...postcount=2224
. * DIY by Delfin000 : http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...postcount=3652 Thanks for your sharing

* DIY Y6
. ** Thanks to Delfin000 and his friend Valery: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...postcount=3645 (video included)
. ** Josh Build, Thanks for sharing
. *** Building: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...postcount=4744
. *** Center Plates: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...1#post17967119
. *** First test video: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...0#post17925935
. *** Props Test: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...postcount=4926

* DIY HEXA
. * Frame Plates: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...postcount=1148
. * Configuration on soft: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...postcount=1129
. Videos:
. * http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjI3NDA2MzIw.html
. * http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjI3MzkwNjc2.html
. * http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjI3MzgxODAw.html

* DIY OCTA
. * Configuration & Videos: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...postcount=2168
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videos:
http://www.youku.com/playlist_show/id_5340672.html
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Old Jan 28, 2011, 04:46 PM
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X450 Instruction Manual V1.1
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Old Jan 28, 2011, 06:22 PM
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Hi all , I have put up a brief xaircraft x450 build thread on my website http://www.quadcopters.co.uk/?PageID..._Build&subCat=
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exchange fantastic ideas,suggestions?
Mine is OTW from CA. but we NEED a good FPV mount setup like the x650 has!
PLEASE ! lol
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Where can one buy the parts? Where is the dealer list?
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Old Jan 28, 2011, 11:02 PM
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Where can one buy the parts? Where is the dealer list?
Here is three

CNChelicopter.com
http://www.rchobbyhelicopter.com/
Xaircraftusa.com
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Hi all , I have put up a brief xaircraft x450 build thread on my website http://www.quadcopters.co.uk/?PageID..._Build&subCat=
Thanks for the guide, looks quite simple to assemble. Is there enough space on the central plate to fit a GoPro cam?
Also, seems like some foam material is needed for landing pads.
Any flying videos yet?
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Old Jan 29, 2011, 03:49 AM
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The centre plates are bigger than a gaui , but ideally gopro cameras go underneath so landing gear needs to be taller. Doesnt look too difficult to add taller custom legs.
No flying videos yet as been busy doing pre built combos for customers and not enough hours in the day.
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Hi Geoff. Nice build log Would you mind if I copy your link and posted it here on the X450 board? http://clubxaircraft.freeforums.org/
Or even better come over and join up.

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@FlyFPV,
Are you going to be selling the X450 and parts soon?
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Hi Geoff. Nice build log Would you mind if I copy your link and posted it here on the X450 board? http://clubxaircraft.freeforums.org/
Or even better come over and join up.

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Hi Paul.
Thats fine with me mate.. Go for it.
And I will be happy to join up.
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@FlyFPV,
Are you going to be selling the X450 and parts soon?
Yes they will be in stock in a few weeks,, I just wanted to build and test one myself before commiting to stocking them..
I will be putting a pre order button on my site shortly.
www.quadcopters.co.uk
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