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Old Mar 01, 2011, 01:59 AM
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This is what the SB5 looks like with all the bits I made for me and the Team.





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Old Mar 01, 2011, 02:26 AM
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edi

the sb5 looks good.

you are not using the light weight headstem??


has the new swingarm box reduced the flex and cured some of the wheel alignment issues??

cheers
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Old Mar 01, 2011, 03:12 AM
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edi

the sb5 looks good.

you are not using the light weight headstem??


has the new swingarm box reduced the flex and cured some of the wheel alignment issues??

cheers
a
Its got the following parts:
Lightweight Steering Head
One piece Triple Clamps (both together reducing the weight on the Fork by approx. 30g)
Swingarm box (less flex)
Rear Swingarm Legs with integrated Belt tensioner for 360 Belt. This warps the belt around the small pulley: less tension on the belt without it slipping.
Rear Frame Set Plate with raised Layshaft position (+2.5mm)
Front Frame Set (+5mm) (unobtainable Prototype Parts from Leipzig 2009)
Fork Legs with integrated Brake 10mm Longer, Standard Offset.
Front Brake Set for 3156MG only (Disc, Disc Guide, Servo Holder and Steel Brakecam)
The Slipper works with Belleville Springs, these are better to adjust. But I actually lock out the Slipper.
On top of that I have a carbon Spokeset but thats not on the bike on the pictures.

Further:
The front Dampers are mounted upsidedown and are Limited internally with 3mm shims and externally with 2mm to limit the Fork travel to 16mm.
Ground clearance up front is 32mm completly relaxed.
The Steering Springs are conventional old style, no damping.
I mounted the Steering Servo up sinde down to have more room for a proper steering linkage. Side effect: slightly lower CG.
I have room above for the Receiver keeping the Cables short. This only works with the Fork Legs I made.
The Front Wheel is internally weighted with an additional 30-40g heavier Tire Insert. This gives the Bike more stability.

I am thinking about packing most parts into a SB5 Tuning Kit, but first I will see what the headquaters think about it.
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Old Mar 01, 2011, 04:12 AM
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edi

that sounds even more impressive.

what servo are you running??
i have the bls551, but have been looking at reducing the unsprung weight... maybe one of these?

http://www.servodatabase.com/servo/ko-propo/pds-951-ics

it would suit your inverted servo layout better than the standard upright servo design

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Old Mar 01, 2011, 04:21 AM
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edi

that sounds even more impressive.

what servo are you running??
i have the bls551, but have been looking at reducing the unsprung weight... maybe one of these?

http://www.servodatabase.com/servo/ko-propo/pds-951-ics

it would suit your inverted servo layout better than the standard upright servo design

cheers
a
I use the BLS551 (9551) for all my bikes. Very reliable Servo.
I personally wouldnt change from them ....
Tradii is supposed to use a dirty little Hitec HS85 Metal Gear and that seems to work. So I think that one could handle it.
It is always important to adjust the Endpoints on your radio properly, so the steering springs dont lock out. Steer to left left and move Fork to full right and then the springs arent alowed to lock and the other way round.

This way I think any rubbish servo worth $1.99 can do the job for a while ;-)
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Old Mar 01, 2011, 04:39 AM
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an hs85

they are a nice servo, for an indoor foam flyer
didnt think it would stand up to the steering on a bike.... but at the price of them.. you could have 3 or 4 spares

but to its benefit it is 20g lighter than the bls551
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Old Mar 01, 2011, 04:43 AM
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As I said I wouldnt but some do try it. I like to buy ONE and it keeps for a season or two ;-)

I know this one works: its a 1:12 Servo from Futaba: BLS651 (9650)
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Old Mar 06, 2011, 09:27 AM
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Hi Edi,really looking good,a couple of questions if you don't mind exlpaining to me,i'm
a newbie that still has loads to learn,
Whats the idea with the upside down front shocks?
Do you also recommend 30+grms weight for the rear wheel as well the front.

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Old Mar 07, 2011, 01:51 AM
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Whats the idea with the upside down front shocks?
Do you also recommend 30+grms weight for the rear wheel as well the front.
Cheers Gaz
Up side Down Shocks: This is just me being a bit over the edge:
Theory: The Shock body is heavier than the Shockrod side. The whole front of the Bike (Arms, triples, steering, servo) is heavy enough. I have been reducing the weight of this "unsprung" bit of the bike. If you look the shock body moves with the swingarm. So this is just a slight little bitty. Guess NOONE will feel the difference, but it makes me sleep better *LOL*

Weight in the Wheels: try to pack 30-40g into the front. If you want also into the rear.
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Old Mar 07, 2011, 02:11 PM
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sorry to hi jack this thread but:

I have just had a rear sprocket made for the sb5 hub, so i can run a chain, 28t on the rear 10t up front. I feel this is the only way to destress the rear end and have the wheel pointing in the right direction. pics to follow.

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Old Mar 08, 2011, 03:10 AM
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Dear Edi, are a friend of Gianni Zonzini would like to talk in private with you ........... your mail?? Thanks Marino
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Old Mar 19, 2011, 12:43 PM
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The few little bits I made are selling well. Hope youre all happy with it.

I have a few other tuning bits in developement. By the way even belt pulleys work out of this material..... Anyone else have a bright idea or encountered a problem he wants solved? (send a PM). If its really bright and as far as we havent already tried and discarded it I will sit down and get it done. Please dont feel insulted when I say its not worth the hassle.
Oh, flashy bits like blinkers, chrome rims, or sexy underwear for the driver figure will be ignored, I already have all including red undies on mine *LOL*
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Old Mar 22, 2011, 09:55 AM
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Did you address the making the brake caliber for the SB-5.
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Old Mar 22, 2011, 10:17 AM
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I finished the design. I am not 100% happy with it. Havent ordered a prototype yet to test.
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Old Mar 27, 2011, 12:38 PM
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So many changes I see to the SB5, makes me re-think getting one. Stock not good enough I guess??
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