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Old Jan 16, 2011, 01:00 AM
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Welding sets for modelers..

Brad and I spent the entire day yesterday looking
for a small gas welding set suitable for modeling.
Welding supply houses, pawn shops, lumber
yards, parts stores, so on, so on...

It looked like no one had anything that was
what we needed or it was too $$. The big
welding supplier could fix us up for about $800.
Set, tanks, gas, rod, flux, goggles.

Today Brad went out riding his bike, nice
day, and checked a couple more pawn shops
we missed yesterday. On the way home he
stopped by Tractor Supply just on the slight
chance they might have something we could
use.

Well, he hit the jackpot.

Worthington WK5500 ox, complete set, tanks
torch, hose stand, regulators, striker, and
some rods, assorted..
And it is just what we needed to do the stuff
on the airboat he is working on. Welding 3/16th
steel tubing.

$54.95, regular price.

http://www.theezcatalog.com/index.as...e=1&sku=438669
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Old Jan 16, 2011, 01:40 AM
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And,... What are you going to build using that?

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Old Jan 16, 2011, 02:00 AM
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Brad is working on a scale, 1/6th, airboat.
He is welding up the guard for the prop and
all the motor mounts, seat mounts and stuff
like that.

It will look something like this:
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Old Jan 16, 2011, 02:40 AM
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Using that, he could weld up the hull too.

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Old Jan 16, 2011, 07:00 AM
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I have on of those sets, got it at Lowes. The oxy tanks do not last long at all, so turn it off when your not using it!
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Old Jan 16, 2011, 07:25 AM
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I have on of those sets, got it at Lowes. The oxy tanks do not last long at all, so turn it off when your not using it!
Thanks, the book says about 30 minutes tops!

They are $8 at Lowes. The gas should last
a couple hours. You can use propane but it
is a little slower we are told. We will check
it out and let you know.

Considering the smallest bottle of O2 at the
welding shop was near $200, this seems to
be the way to go for what we are doing.
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Old Jan 16, 2011, 08:34 AM
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Have fun!
In those sizes, I'd go for brass and silver solder... but aluminum and TIG would sure be sweet!
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Old Jan 16, 2011, 08:51 AM
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For what its worth..
Heres what Ive done..
I went to my shop foreman and got 100lb bottles..I pay for the gas there and return the bottles there..Because as a resident to get the big bottles of Gas ,oxy,acet,argon..it can run almost $300 deposit on the bottle..each bottle
smaller bottles can be had as well ,20-50lb'ers
..Ask a few friends,,even your regular mechanic..for what you'll be using it might be worth it ..
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Old Jan 16, 2011, 02:31 PM
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You can work with aluminum solder on aluminum sheets and rods with Oxy/Acet units also. We did it in the USMC on small stuff, used Mig and Tig on the thicker stuff.
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Old Jan 16, 2011, 02:55 PM
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I bought one of those sets years back and yes you go thru the oxygen quite fast and it's expensive. I would run out at the worst possible time. Another thing was the valves, one big piece of garbage. You couldn't get them down far enough to do small work and the flow rate would constantly keep changing. Instead I just got a #1 tip for my big torch setup and have been happy since.

You'd be better off getting one of those portabe tank setups and get a small welding tip. http://www.harborfreight.com/portabl...nks-65818.html

If you want something smaller then you can change the whole handle and tip to a micro one. http://www.harborfreight.com/micro-s...kit-95671.html
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Old Jan 16, 2011, 05:19 PM
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Gotta agree with green-boat, the little micro tipped torch is a fantastic little tool. Fully functional Oxy-Acetylene with pinpoint accuracy!!
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Old Jan 16, 2011, 05:27 PM
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I bought one of those sets years back and yes you go thru the oxygen quite fast and it's expensive. I would run out at the worst possible time. Another thing was the valves, one big piece of garbage. You couldn't get them down far enough to do small work and the flow rate would constantly keep changing. Instead I just got a #1 tip for my big torch setup and have been happy since.

You'd be better off getting one of those portabe tank setups and get a small welding tip. http://www.harborfreight.com/portabl...nks-65818.html

If you want something smaller then you can change the whole handle and tip to a micro one. http://www.harborfreight.com/micro-s...kit-95671.html
Only problem with that system green boat ,The Tanks have to be tested before they get filled,If the outlet even accepts them for testing. cant say for every where but if they do ,a quick exchange is out of the question.wont accept them..
Queried about that myself..still another 150 for testing,then filled..and at the dealers discretion they can be inspected and tested each time a guy brings them in
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Old Jan 16, 2011, 05:50 PM
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GB, that would be fine if we were planning on doing
a lot, but this is for one project maybe.

Those two items are near $400. Then there is
still the matter of gas.

We have two old tanks and they quoted us about
$500 to test and fill them, if they passed the
test. They are over twenty years old and have
been sitting out for over ten. Brad has an old
welding set, same age as the tanks and has been
stored of over ten years, the hose is not safe
and the regulators are in question.

Brad bought a case of O2 for $84 and that
should last us a long time. He will still use the
propane for light stuff and aluminum welding.

He bought a bead blaster today, can't wait to
play with it. The neighbor is a stone mason
and he paid half and bought a wet grinder so
Brad can sharpen and clean his tools. Brad had
a coupon and the blaster was on sale so the
neighbor paid fifty and Brad paid ten...

Brad has done some test joints with the little
welder and it really works well on the very same
stuff. Real silver solder is about $140 a pound
so the brass, $11 a pound, will be fine for our
project.

If we were trying to do this to make money
and doing it everyday, we might have gone
a different direction, but this is just a hobby.

The blaster cabinet is really neat, like working
with nuke stuff...


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Old Jan 16, 2011, 06:18 PM
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I have had one of these for over 25 years Microflame . Paid $19.95 for mine. Good for small projects.
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Old Jan 16, 2011, 10:23 PM
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I made my cage out of aluminum using aluminum solder.
Air boats tend to get top heavy.
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