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Old Jan 01, 2011, 02:49 AM
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How do you Research a Vessel to build a model

I am thinking about building a 1870's era warship, My net wanderings have turned up very little information. A museum has a solid wood builders model with an image online, there are a few references to her in a couple of online documents, and I have a book with an image and limited specifications. I think I can build the hull from this scant info but precious little else.

Its an Australian ship, boat actually, Second class torpedo boat Acheron/Avernus . I'm looking more for information on conducting research more than specific details of the boat in question, you know "give the man a fish/ teach a man to fish"

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Old Jan 01, 2011, 03:46 AM
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Have you tried Google image search? Its one of the first places I look. Also www.battleships-cruisers.co.uk is one of my favorites. Haze grey and underway. is another. Danes list of all the worlds ships, The mother of all maritime sites, ..gosh I hate to give away all my secrets
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Old Jan 01, 2011, 03:58 AM
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I found this HMAS Acheron, looks like a fine subject for a model. Also found this later one with the same name.
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Old Jan 01, 2011, 04:06 AM
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OK, now I think I found the one you are interested in. Built around 1879 by Atlas Engineering of Sydney. 78ft long and 16tons. Originally equiped with a spar torpedo, but changed to two 14" Whitehead torpedos in 1887. All retired 1902. This is an unusual looking boat.
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Old Jan 01, 2011, 04:39 AM
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http://www.powerhousemuseum.com/coll...se/?irn=211569

I have 3 Photos including the one you have posted plus one other in a book called Australian Warships Through The Lens 1901-1945.

Currently working on a Delft Ship model but I'm struggling to reach the supposed 16 tons without the boat looking anaemic. The Museum Info suggests 22 tons Im at 24 tons but as is its too much v shaped
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Old Jan 01, 2011, 06:12 AM
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New lines plan

There is an Article in Model Boats recently on research for model boats, Im going to have to find it me thinks, thanks to Colin over at MBM

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Old Jan 01, 2011, 07:22 AM
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Did the Royal Navy keep specs on Commonwealth ships? Try here:

http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/contact...-the/index.htm

Might check with these folks for leads:

http://www.navy.gov.au/Navy_and_your_Community
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Old Jan 01, 2011, 07:24 AM
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Thanks to Predrednut, the photo is part of the Australian War Memorial collection, with a search there I found another image of the boat, a cross sectional lines engraving that will further improve my Delftship drawing

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Old Jan 01, 2011, 09:06 AM
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Being a steam propelled boat wouldn't she be more round bottom.
Need room for those boilers you know.
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Old Jan 01, 2011, 10:46 AM
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Now I have to ask this; in post #4 the pic seems to show a large key. like someone would wind up a clockwork sticking out of the deck at the stern of the boat? <grin>
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Old Jan 01, 2011, 03:52 PM
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you mean the 2 life rings hung on the rails

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Old Jan 01, 2011, 08:03 PM
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Being a steam propelled boat wouldn't she be more round bottom.
Need room for those boilers you know.

I'm tooling around with the shape, I have a hull shape that looks right but the displacement is too high at 30 tons. I wonder if there is a discrepancy in my info. I still need to add more volume aft I think for the steam engine?

Do I ignore the displacement and just model the hull to the correct exterior lines?

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Old Jan 01, 2011, 10:08 PM
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I'll tell you Nick, that boat sure doesnt have much freeboard. I really wouldnt want to take it to far out to sea and that probably is going to make for challenges in the model also.
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Old Jan 01, 2011, 10:15 PM
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Nick, ran across this, TB1 Lightning from approx the same time period as your subject. Some similarities. One last one I found that looks very similar.
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Old Jan 02, 2011, 04:56 AM
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V0.2 of the hull, fatter under water and external dimensions modivied to match the line drawing.

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