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Old May 17, 2011, 03:22 AM
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top-drive

hi,

maybe this is something you /other's like?

i build in some servo housing into the wing with channels for servowires and top-drive steering rod.


(bottom side of the wing pictures)

-kristof-




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You have Kits with wings without RDS as far i know.
Then it would be cool to get an impression how much work is to do on such a wing.
shurely interesting for anybody interested in your kits.
i am.


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Old May 17, 2011, 06:55 AM
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That is a very sweet idea, would make replacing a bad servo a dream!
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Old May 17, 2011, 10:40 AM
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hi,

maybe this is something you /other's like? i build in some servo housing into the wing with channels for servowires and top-drive steering rod. (bottom side of the wing pictures)

-kristof-
Kristof,

You have my undivided attention, keep going, you are amazing and are doing great work. Your glider will be and is very desirable.
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Old May 17, 2011, 12:20 PM
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more pictures

Just wanted to post a few more pictures of the Helios. These are from the DESS F3K fundraiser 0ver the weekend, photo props to Oleg! The Helios flew great all day, they even got dubbed to be my new "superplane" by Ogo
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Old May 22, 2011, 01:30 PM
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hi,

i've made a mould for the servo cap's , decided to do a small bulge so i can use the most inner hole of the ds09 servoarm , because the zone wing is so thin it would be hard to get evrything completely within the wing .

on this wing the servo cap is seated flush with the surface of the wing .

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Old May 22, 2011, 06:10 PM
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Sweet !
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Old May 22, 2011, 09:23 PM
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Kristof,

Like I've said before, you definitely have my attention. You address every issue expertly. The servo housings and servo caps are the latest example. Let us know when all of this cool stuff will be available in a Helios for purchase. Keep going!
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Old May 24, 2011, 02:13 AM
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full carbon

hi,

here are some pictures of the newest full carbon wing


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Old May 24, 2011, 03:09 AM
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hi,

The newest carbon wing WITH color now !
I will helps a lot for visibility. I remember Herten contest, it was sometimes difficult for me so see the plane.

See you at Anthisnes
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Old May 24, 2011, 03:41 AM
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hi olivier,

yes i had problems with visibilty to that's why it needed the color, might do less paint on the next one , i have no idea what it weigh's witouth paint but i could guess there is 5 grams of paint on it...

wing weighs 146 gram(no servo's)


see you on sunday!

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The newest carbon wing WITH color now !
I will helps a lot for visibility. I remember Herten contest, it was sometimes difficult for me so see the plane.

See you at Anthisnes
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Old May 24, 2011, 03:43 AM
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hi olivier,

yes i had problems with visibilty to that's why it needed the color, might do less paint on the next one , i have no idea what it weigh's witouth paint but i could guess there is 5 grams of paint on it...

wing weighs 146 gram(no servo's)


see you on sunday!

-kristof-
146g is very good for a full carbon (80g/m^2) wing
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Old May 24, 2011, 06:53 AM
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Looking sharp as usual Kristof! I took the Helios out to a contest this weekend and they performed very well in a wide range of conditions, from light rudder-only lift, to huge lift with bouts of sink that would sink a jumbo jet in between. Even still the max ballast I flew was 60g, which was plenty to tame the wild air. I had one midair that left my #2 with a gash on the right wing tip, but it was an easy fix. I just filled it with some very thickened epoxy/microballoons (less than 1g total epoxy used to fill it) and added plenty of carbon dust to the mix to make it blend in. When a throwing blade of another plane hits the leading edge of that d-box, it acts just like a knife blade!
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Old May 24, 2011, 07:01 AM
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kyle,

mid-air, that sucks , fortunatly it wasn't to bad and a foam core wing has a huge advantage to this, a hollow moulded can be a pain to repair i have noticed...

good to hear you like it!

-kristof-

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Looking sharp as usual Kristof! I took the Helios out to a contest this weekend and they performed very well in a wide range of conditions, from light rudder-only lift, to huge lift with bouts of sink that would sink a jumbo jet in between. Even still the max ballast I flew was 60g, which was plenty to tame the wild air. I had one midair that left my #2 with a gash on the right wing tip, but it was an easy fix. I just filled it with some very thickened epoxy/microballoons (less than 1g total epoxy used to fill it) and added plenty of carbon dust to the mix to make it blend in. When a throwing blade of another plane hits the leading edge of that d-box, it acts just like a knife blade!
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Old May 24, 2011, 07:30 PM
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Well, repair all finished and tested, strong enough to take a full launch and not flinch. Total repair added 0.3g to the wing's total weight Also after some more test and tune, and on the recommendation of some fellow pilots this weekend, I bumped the CG back to 75mm again. I really like it here now. The plane simply doesn't lie, if the tail lifts, its in lift, if it sinks, its in sink. It seems to stay aloft in almost nothing now. It also turns in lift much smoother, the tail doesnt seem to lag behind it. I didnt think that it would make that big of a change, but it really has. I believe my issues with this CG setting before were because I had way too much elevator throw and was using snap flap (no more) which made it extremely pitchy and wild on any stick input. Anyone willing to try this CG, I would recommend it, as it has made this already great plane feel like an even better machine!
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Old May 24, 2011, 11:52 PM
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Hi Wave-Glider,
I've one set-up on 72mm and without ballast and slightly (1,5mm)flaps down it is a thermal machine. When I add ballast it seems to have a negative impact on his performance.
My second one has the CG on 75mm and even in gusty winds I can still mannage the lightest lift with 40gr(never more, it does not need it I think) ballast. My flaps are then only 0,5mm down, or less.
So I think also that you are right, this plane can have a CG which is on 75mm, only you need to set the flaps correct.
I still use snap-flap in Thermals.
Will see this weekend what we can do in the second national championship

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