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Old Nov 23, 2012, 07:54 PM
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Change of subject...I received a PM regarding Extreme Flight planes from a new pilot who seems further along than I was when I got an Extreme Flight plane...but, at what point do you all recommend a person switch from 4 channel planes to a 3D plane? And which plane? I said most people would recommend the Edge, but I got the Extra (after a 3DHS Super Vyper). One thing about the Edge, assuming it is as floaty as I think it will be, it might be more difficult for somebody to land unless they were using a floaty trainer.
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Old Nov 23, 2012, 08:15 PM
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I recommend it as soon as it is what they want. So long as they can successfully and consistently fly and land a T-28.

When I do help someone make the transition to 3d, I will typically just tone down the rates significantly to make it as tame as any PZ plane. Once their confidence is up, start adding throw.
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Old Nov 23, 2012, 08:33 PM
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48" Edge is as good as it gets for a first 3D plane. In fact, even as an accomplished pilot that's one of my all-time favorite airplanes.
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Old Nov 23, 2012, 08:38 PM
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The Edge is easy to land. If the CG is too far aft (where many 3D flyers prefer) it can be floaty. However I find the stability and control benefits of the design regardless of the CG position. It's super easy to harrier and fly at post stall speeds so that might be a consideration too.
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Old Nov 23, 2012, 08:39 PM
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48" Edge is as good as it gets for a first 3D plane. In fact, even as an accomplished pilot that's one of my all-time favorite airplanes.
I'd agree as well!!
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Old Nov 23, 2012, 08:54 PM
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+1... I'm not an accomplished pilot, but I learned what I know on that plane. I put the battery further and further back, and fly exclusively tail heavy and on high rates now, and find it much easier to land when I put a click of down trim when I turn off my idle switch before landing. It's a lot easier to hold off a plane than get your brain to push the stick when you are under 4 feet off the runway.
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Old Nov 23, 2012, 10:45 PM
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48" Edge is as good as it gets for a first 3D plane. In fact, even as an accomplished pilot that's one of my all-time favorite airplanes.
+1
I'm back in the hobby about 8-10 months now and the 48" Edge (mind you it was a 3DHS Edge so the EF will likely be equal or better) was my first balsa 3D and it was a huge confidence booster. Still wrapping myself around it and having a blast. I'm looking for more solid lines now so there's a 60" EF Extra on the bench. The post that said tone down the throws is right on. I'm teaching my 6 year old girl with a TH EPP Edge with minimal throws and high expo and she's doing great! You can always tune down a 3D airframe but you can seldom tune "up" a trainer!
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Old Nov 23, 2012, 10:54 PM
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48" Edge is as good as it gets for a first 3D plane. In fact, even as an accomplished pilot that's one of my all-time favorite airplanes.
+1 I love my 48 inch edge.. Speaking of that gotta go find the prop adapters so I can get her back in the air.
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Old Nov 23, 2012, 11:01 PM
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Change of subject...I received a PM regarding Extreme Flight planes from a new pilot who seems further along than I was when I got an Extreme Flight plane...but, at what point do you all recommend a person switch from 4 channel planes to a 3D plane? And which plane? I said most people would recommend the Edge, but I got the Extra (after a 3DHS Super Vyper). One thing about the Edge, assuming it is as floaty as I think it will be, it might be more difficult for somebody to land unless they were using a floaty trainer.
I had a 68-in velox after a seagull 3d harrier . So after suffering with a brick and getting a real plane it was easy.

It is interesting how most people want a 48 size - but they are harder to fly. I like the full fuse foam in that class for confidence going low, but I have spent enuff on balsa 48's to get a 50-cc class plane.
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Old Nov 23, 2012, 11:43 PM
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I'm getting my dad a EF 48" Edge 540 for Christmas. I really wish it had been my first 3d plane. It flies so easy and good and natural it's unreal. THe 60"Extra was a bit intimidating at first.
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Old Nov 24, 2012, 12:12 AM
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I'm going to be the disenting opinion and recomend the laser. While the edge has the floaty and harrier entry down the laser is by far the most stable bird in alpha of the EF planes. That tall rudder on the plane over rules the straight LE the edge.



It feels a little slower than the extra and the mxs. I think its the side profile though.
I learned 3D on the mxs though.




Oh and another big thing I think people miss these days is the absolute basics of aerobatic flight and getting them down so that they are absolutely perfect. A lot of people just finish off a T-28 and want to jump rite into the 3D planes. A T-28, Vanq MKII, and then 3d plane would probably be a better route. The vanq is obviously set up for low rates of course.
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Old Nov 24, 2012, 12:29 AM
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Anyone know if the rudder on the 88'' Edge can be removed for transportation? I want to see if i can squeeze it in a '99 Camry. Losi said his brother can get a 89'' Slick in a Ultima along with a few other planes. I'd love to get a 50cc gasser for a weekend flyer but not if it means getting a trailer.....maybe it's time to get a bigger car.
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Old Nov 24, 2012, 12:32 AM
The wind caused that!!
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may be me that we are discussing!!

i've only been flying for a little over 5 months. i'm older (41 years old) and am wanting to get into a more aerobatic plane that i can do some mild aerobatics with and eventually get into some 3d stuff. nothing hard core, at least not for a while.

i have the eflite apprentice that i can fly, do basic aerobatics with (very basic!). i have no problems landing it, flying it, and basically just have fun with. i also have the parkzone albatros. this biplane has taught me alot! this plane has to be flown all the time. rudder use is mandantory as it just doesn't look right if not used. it's taught me to pay alot more attention. how and when to use rudder in turns, how to crosswind land with rudder.

while i know these plane are NOTHING like a extreme flight planes, i'm pretty confident that i could fly one. i've flown the umx sbach, PZ t-28, big stick, and buddy boxed on a couple aerobatic planes and did fine with them.

i realize that i'm not going to go out and be pulling all the tricks like i've seen some seasoned fliers pull off, i'm more looking at being able to fly patterns with the plane, and slowly learning aerobatics. i know a foam plane would probably be best to learn on, but i just can't stand the look of the flat foamy planes. i have enough sense to not go out and try blenders or pop tops or any of the other cool names of the moves i've watched videos of. i'm looking for quality, and something i can grow and learn on all the while LOOKING scale!!
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Old Nov 24, 2012, 12:34 AM
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Anyone know if the rudder on the 88'' Edge can be removed for transportation? I want to see if i can squeeze it in a '99 Camry. Losi said his brother can get a 89'' Slick in a Ultima along with a few other planes. I'd love to get a 50cc gasser for a weekend flyer but not if it means getting a trailer.....maybe it's time to get a bigger car.
No, the rudder on the 88" Edge is not removeable by default.
I've seen people do that mod to other planes which didn't have removeable rudders though
I'd 'assume' you could mod this one that way if you wanted.
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Old Nov 24, 2012, 12:36 AM
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oh yeah, i have probably 200 hours on the phoenix sim flying aerobatic planes. i know this doesn't really translate good, but it has helped me with orientation.
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