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Old Dec 21, 2010, 12:09 PM
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Looking at the radio, it looks to me to be in 4ch orientation.
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Old Dec 21, 2010, 12:10 PM
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If it doesn't have a servo attached to the front link, how do you suppose it moves forward and back?
Sometimes the obvious gets overlooked in the excitement of the moment.
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Old Dec 21, 2010, 12:11 PM
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lol, jinx!
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Old Dec 21, 2010, 12:11 PM
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You've never seen a fake trim button?

What's neat about this, is I bet the controls are the SAME as our S107's


EDIT:

The Double Horse 9100 has a BIG drive gear, more like a "real" helicopter.
It nearly is one.
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Old Dec 21, 2010, 12:12 PM
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There IS one servo in the back, it raises/lowers the back of the swash only, giving it fore/aft.
If you look close at all the pics, you see a dummy ball-link on each side of the front of the swash.
using the swash design on a three channel would still require The swash to have two linkages for stability of the swash plate.
The front swash linkage is just fixed mounted instead of being connected to a adjustable servo motor.
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Old Dec 21, 2010, 12:13 PM
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Sometimes the obvious gets overlooked in the excitement of the moment.
It has one servo in the BACK to tilt the swash fore/aft.

EDIT:

The Double Horse 9100 rear servo can be replaced, because it has it's own connector, rather than being soldered. It is likely an off the shelf part, in no way special to this model.
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Old Dec 21, 2010, 12:13 PM
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That's a possibility. Maybe the other links are cosmetic only. My Millennium NTU is a single rotor 2 channel that uses a vertical tail rotor for rudder, and flies forward by default, but apparently the Double Horse 9100 adds the 3rd channel to regulate fore, and aft pitch. Actually, that's pretty unique in a 3 channel.

I wonder how it would handle a slight breeze compared to a similar sized co-ax?

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There IS one servo in the back, it raises/lowers the back of the swash only, giving it fore/aft.


If you look close at all the pics, you see a dummy ball-link on each side of the front of the swash.
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Old Dec 21, 2010, 12:14 PM
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You can see clearly the roll control servo on the right side of the model, it is mounted base facing out, You can see where the link goes up from the servo arm which is in the inside of the frame and attaches to the swash arm.
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Old Dec 21, 2010, 12:15 PM
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The two dummy links would be fixed rigidly, so THEY are the pivot point on the swash. This would actually give it some range in the blade pitch as well.


EDIT:

CORRECTION: The Double Horse 9100 does NOT change pitch, it can't because the two blade grips are rigid to one another.
However, the phasing between the swash and the rotor disk DOES change, as the swash is pushed closer to the rotor disk, the link arms must lean forward as you see here. This dampens response even more, further taming what should be a CopterGeist.
It nearly is.
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Old Dec 21, 2010, 12:16 PM
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The Double Horse 9100 head assembly. Notice how teeny-tiny that swashplate diameter is- this made it very low-cost, as a smaller bearing was used.
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Old Dec 21, 2010, 12:19 PM
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Well it certainly would be an elaborate ruse, making a 3 channel look like a 4 channel. Why don't you order one and see?
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Old Dec 21, 2010, 12:21 PM
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Well someone needs to "pull the trigger", and get one. That way, we'll all know for sure whether this is a 3 or 4 channel. Who wants to be first?

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Old Dec 21, 2010, 12:22 PM
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As soon as I find one not at Xheli, that will probably happen.

I may order one up from Ali Blah-blah,
Or see if one of my distributor buddies will GIVE me a sample...

EDIT:

The Double Horse 9100 turned out to be not so bad a copter, generally speaking.
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Old Dec 21, 2010, 12:23 PM
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THAT attaches to the centered, (pitch, not roll) back ball on the swash, look again.

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No, on the RIGHT side, not the left side which you showed that has the pitch control servo.
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Old Dec 21, 2010, 12:23 PM
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This is what I see in the photos.
The swash has two linkages one connected to a servo and one fixed mounted.
The swash also has a center Anti-rotation pin.
Two buckles are also connected from the swash to the rotor blades.
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