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Old Mar 26, 2011, 11:31 PM
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does anybody know what the kv on the stock motor is?
I believe this is what you are after Brent?

FoamJunkE was close enough to call it good!
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Old Mar 27, 2011, 01:01 AM
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thanks guys!!!
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Old Mar 27, 2011, 02:32 AM
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Nice video impailer. Looks like a lot of fun. Which F16 is stock and which one has Don's setup in it?
Thanks - a little blurry, but you get the idea.......The one followed most of the time was 4S (orange nose at the start).
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Old Mar 27, 2011, 02:38 AM
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Looks like a great time! Do you guys have the thrust tubes installed on them?

Don
Huge fun. Will try and get them next to each other a bit more next time! My money is on the Wicked setup lasting longer.......

No tubes Don - I hadn't picked up on the idea here - too many pages......

I am guessing that a tube may result in a burn-out on the stock setup as it is being pushed already? ( I cant believe the spec sheet posted above !!! 16.5A for 20 secs - the 4S f16 is way over that! A little worrying.)

Interested in playing with the idea of tubes though - is there a post here to show how to make them?
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Old Mar 27, 2011, 02:47 AM
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No, I didn`t measure volts/amps, but I think you should stay with 1000mah to be on the safe side. I`m putting in my don`s 5400/wemo combo in mine

Morten
Are you going 4S on that motor Morten? I'd be interested to hear. I have one of the Wicked 6000kv motors from Don and Wemo fans on 3S in my AMX and it screams. I'd love to know how a 5400/4S performs.
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Old Mar 27, 2011, 02:56 AM
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Thanks - a little blurry, but you get the idea.......The one followed most of the time was 4S (orange nose at the start).
So which one was faster?
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Old Mar 27, 2011, 03:16 AM
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So which one was faster?
4S at start, Dons setup took the edge after a min or so. Not measured - only speculating - will do further "testing".

4S has more than 1:1 thrust; 3S Dons/Wemo a little under 1:1 - although JT may be using a heavy 3S pack on his setup.

4S has the benefit of being a little lighter, although the Dons setup had a big pack in it I recall. 4S therefore glides well. Buying a 4S pack is cheaper than buying a Wemo/new motor, so there is another benefit.

Downside of 4S is that it clearly appears the motor/fan/esc are being pushed given the specs set out above. Therefore possibly more expensive long run. I like the comfort of knowing the Dons setup is working within sensible limits.

No clear winner imho. To be fair you asked which is faster, not better - so I'd call it a draw over the length of a 3 min flight.
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Old Mar 27, 2011, 04:03 AM
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Are you going 4S on that motor Morten? I'd be interested to hear. I have one of the Wicked 6000kv motors from Don and Wemo fans on 3S in my AMX and it screams. I'd love to know how a 5400/4S performs.
Yepp, 4s. I have this setup on 4s in the AMX, and it`s very fast. If you search for "kimhey01" on youtube you`ll find som video taken with this setup on 4s in the T-33.

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Old Mar 27, 2011, 04:27 AM
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Yepp, 4s. I have this setup on 4s in the AMX, and it`s very fast. If you search for "kimhey01" on youtube you`ll find som video taken with this setup on 4s in the T-33.

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OK, thanks - what sort of amp draw are you getting?
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Old Mar 27, 2011, 05:15 AM
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I`m getting 36amp @ 542watt with 1800 nanotec 4s.

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Old Mar 27, 2011, 05:17 AM
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JPower T33 (1 min 13 sec)
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Old Mar 27, 2011, 10:39 AM
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Interested in playing with the idea of tubes though - is there a post here to show how to make them?
You should get a nice speed boost on the Wicked wemo combo with the thrust tube as the exhaust diameter is way too big as it comes for the wemo fan.

Here is the tube install:
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...0&postcount=10

Here is the template:
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...8&postcount=20

It will take only a few minutes to do and you can always remove it, but I think you will like the speed increase.

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Old Mar 27, 2011, 12:35 PM
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4S at start, Dons setup took the edge after a min or so. Not measured - only speculating - will do further "testing".

4S has more than 1:1 thrust; 3S Dons/Wemo a little under 1:1 - although JT may be using a heavy 3S pack on his setup.

4S has the benefit of being a little lighter, although the Dons setup had a big pack in it I recall. 4S therefore glides well. Buying a 4S pack is cheaper than buying a Wemo/new motor, so there is another benefit.

Downside of 4S is that it clearly appears the motor/fan/esc are being pushed given the specs set out above. Therefore possibly more expensive long run. I like the comfort of knowing the Dons setup is working within sensible limits.

No clear winner imho. To be fair you asked which is faster, not better - so I'd call it a draw over the length of a 3 min flight.
Thanks. Has anyone dopplered the speed of either (or both) setups?

I wanted to try out my 4S this morning but the weather is not cooperating...
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Old Mar 27, 2011, 12:50 PM
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My F16 on the W6000 (with thrust tube) on 3S radar gunned in the 95-100mph range, and a few passes around 103 mph. Now that I have the doppler app I will get some video passes.

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Old Mar 27, 2011, 12:52 PM
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don, what size pipes are you using? 1.4-1.5" ??
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