Tree caught plane...

due to decreasing depth perception, on turn to final, i caught my venture 60
on a tree, and it fell to the ground in a bunch of shrubs..... damage to
plane is minor, ego damage, major.....

Something caught the leading edge a couple of inches in from the outboard
wing tip and broke the leading edge (the plane turned into the tree and fell
to the ground; brush broke the fall).. not too bad to repair..... the fuse,
just in front to the hor. stab, twisted enough to wrinkle the covering...
nothing appears to be out of whack, but am wondering how to go about being
sure.... my first thought is to use the heat gun on the wrinkles and see how
it looks afterwards, and cut the covering off between vertical stab and fuse
to look for cracks..... other then doing some twisting and running my hand
around the back end to feel for cracks, i don't want to remove all the rear
covering unless i have to.

Does this seem reasonable if nothing obvious is found?
..
Arne, CT, USA
=========================

if you got trike gear, double check you nose arm. did the same last summer
and learned all about nosewheel arms on thunder tiger trainers


--
Tater
President of MARS Club
www.treece.org/mars.htm
NAR #79654 L1
AMA #747769
EAA #703312
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"Arne Reil" <thereilarne@cox.net> wrote in message
news:EBXQa.15550$AD3.544@lakeread04...
> due to decreasing depth perception, on turn to final, i caught my venture
60
> on a tree, and it fell to the ground in a bunch of shrubs..... damage to
> plane is minor, ego damage, major.....
>
> Something caught the leading edge a couple of inches in from the outboard
> wing tip and broke the leading edge (the plane turned into the tree and
fell
> to the ground; brush broke the fall).. not too bad to repair..... the
fuse,
> just in front to the hor. stab, twisted enough to wrinkle the covering...
> nothing appears to be out of whack, but am wondering how to go about being
> sure.... my first thought is to use the heat gun on the wrinkles and see
how
> it looks afterwards, and cut the covering off between vertical stab and
fuse
> to look for cracks..... other then doing some twisting and running my hand
> around the back end to feel for cracks, i don't want to remove all the
rear
> covering unless i have to.
>
> Does this seem reasonable if nothing obvious is found?
> .
> Arne, CT, USA
> =========================
>
>

Ah, yes, i'm a bit familiar with nose wheels, myself..<g>..

Read about the previous crash mentioned above and all the answers.... looks
like i have to do an 'annual' on my plane in addition to the obvious
repairs.... will be checking all hinges, surfaces, servo control, etc...
..
Arne, CT, USA
=========================
"tater schuld" <taters1@maps.charter.net> wrote in message
news:vh8u02atf3ih6f@corp.supernews.com...
> if you got trike gear, double check you nose arm. did the same last summer
> and learned all about nosewheel arms on thunder tiger trainers
>
>
> --
> Tater
> President of MARS Club
> www.treece.org/mars.htm
> NAR #79654 L1
> AMA #747769
> EAA #703312
> remove spam spelled backwards to reply
>
>
> "Arne Reil" <thereilarne@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:EBXQa.15550$AD3.544@lakeread04...
> > due to decreasing depth perception, on turn to final, i caught my
venture
> 60
> > on a tree, and it fell to the ground in a bunch of shrubs..... damage to
> > plane is minor, ego damage, major.....
> >
> > Something caught the leading edge a couple of inches in from the
outboard
> > wing tip and broke the leading edge (the plane turned into the tree and
> fell
> > to the ground; brush broke the fall).. not too bad to repair..... the
> fuse,
> > just in front to the hor. stab, twisted enough to wrinkle the
covering...
> > nothing appears to be out of whack, but am wondering how to go about
being
> > sure.... my first thought is to use the heat gun on the wrinkles and see
> how
> > it looks afterwards, and cut the covering off between vertical stab and
> fuse
> > to look for cracks..... other then doing some twisting and running my
hand
> > around the back end to feel for cracks, i don't want to remove all the
> rear
> > covering unless i have to.
> >
> > Does this seem reasonable if nothing obvious is found?
> > .
> > Arne, CT, USA
> > =========================
> >
> >
>
>

"Arne Reil" <thereilarne@cox.net> wrote in message
news:hO2Ra.16122$AD3.12986@lakeread04...
> Ah, yes, i'm a bit familiar with nose wheels, myself..<g>..
>
> Read about the previous crash mentioned above and all the answers....
looks
> like i have to do an 'annual' on my plane in addition to the obvious
> repairs.... will be checking all hinges, surfaces, servo control, etc...

and the firewall. missed checking that 2 weeks ago. luckily we found it
before starting the engine.
--
Tater
President of MARS Club
www.treece.org/mars.htm
NAR #79654 L1
AMA #747769
EAA #703312
remove spam spelled backwards to reply

> .
> Arne, CT, USA
> =========================
> "tater schuld" <taters1@maps.charter.net> wrote in message
> news:vh8u02atf3ih6f@corp.supernews.com...
> > if you got trike gear, double check you nose arm. did the same last
summer
> > and learned all about nosewheel arms on thunder tiger trainers
> >
> >
> > --
> > Tater
> > President of MARS Club
> > www.treece.org/mars.htm
> > NAR #79654 L1
> > AMA #747769
> > EAA #703312
> > remove spam spelled backwards to reply
> >
> >
> > "Arne Reil" <thereilarne@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:EBXQa.15550$AD3.544@lakeread04...
> > > due to decreasing depth perception, on turn to final, i caught my
> venture
> > 60
> > > on a tree, and it fell to the ground in a bunch of shrubs..... damage
to
> > > plane is minor, ego damage, major.....
> > >
> > > Something caught the leading edge a couple of inches in from the
> outboard
> > > wing tip and broke the leading edge (the plane turned into the tree
and
> > fell
> > > to the ground; brush broke the fall).. not too bad to repair..... the
> > fuse,
> > > just in front to the hor. stab, twisted enough to wrinkle the
> covering...
> > > nothing appears to be out of whack, but am wondering how to go about
> being
> > > sure.... my first thought is to use the heat gun on the wrinkles and
see
> > how
> > > it looks afterwards, and cut the covering off between vertical stab
and
> > fuse
> > > to look for cracks..... other then doing some twisting and running my
> hand
> > > around the back end to feel for cracks, i don't want to remove all the
> > rear
> > > covering unless i have to.
> > >
> > > Does this seem reasonable if nothing obvious is found?
> > > .
> > > Arne, CT, USA
> > > =========================
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

From experience, if the covering is wrinkled, there is a reason. I would
remove it and inspect the wood for cracks. Once it is exposed, twist it a
little to show the cracks. Simply applying some CA normally takes care of
any cracks. If you don't inspect it, and you lose the tail, you will spend a
lot more time building a new one, not to mention the money and... most of
all, the safety considerations can't be ignored.

JR

"Arne Reil" <thereilarne@cox.net> wrote in message
news:EBXQa.15550$AD3.544@lakeread04...
> due to decreasing depth perception, on turn to final, i caught my venture
60
> on a tree, and it fell to the ground in a bunch of shrubs..... damage to
> plane is minor, ego damage, major.....
>
> Something caught the leading edge a couple of inches in from the outboard
> wing tip and broke the leading edge (the plane turned into the tree and
fell
> to the ground; brush broke the fall).. not too bad to repair..... the
fuse,
> just in front to the hor. stab, twisted enough to wrinkle the covering...
> nothing appears to be out of whack, but am wondering how to go about being
> sure.... my first thought is to use the heat gun on the wrinkles and see
how
> it looks afterwards, and cut the covering off between vertical stab and
fuse
> to look for cracks..... other then doing some twisting and running my hand
> around the back end to feel for cracks, i don't want to remove all the
rear
> covering unless i have to.
>
> Does this seem reasonable if nothing obvious is found?
> .
> Arne, CT, USA
> =========================
>
>

Oh, and the next time you tell the story, the standard line is that the tree
jumped up and grabbed the plane


"JR" <jr-ama732@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:2q5Ra.61328$OZ2.11421@rwcrnsc54...
> From experience, if the covering is wrinkled, there is a reason. I would
> remove it and inspect the wood for cracks. Once it is exposed, twist it a
> little to show the cracks. Simply applying some CA normally takes care of
> any cracks. If you don't inspect it, and you lose the tail, you will spend
a
> lot more time building a new one, not to mention the money and... most
of
> all, the safety considerations can't be ignored.
>
> JR
>
> "Arne Reil" <thereilarne@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:EBXQa.15550$AD3.544@lakeread04...
> > due to decreasing depth perception, on turn to final, i caught my
venture
> 60
> > on a tree, and it fell to the ground in a bunch of shrubs..... damage to
> > plane is minor, ego damage, major.....
> >
> > Something caught the leading edge a couple of inches in from the
outboard
> > wing tip and broke the leading edge (the plane turned into the tree and
> fell
> > to the ground; brush broke the fall).. not too bad to repair..... the
> fuse,
> > just in front to the hor. stab, twisted enough to wrinkle the
covering...
> > nothing appears to be out of whack, but am wondering how to go about
being
> > sure.... my first thought is to use the heat gun on the wrinkles and see
> how
> > it looks afterwards, and cut the covering off between vertical stab and
> fuse
> > to look for cracks..... other then doing some twisting and running my
hand
> > around the back end to feel for cracks, i don't want to remove all the
> rear
> > covering unless i have to.
> >
> > Does this seem reasonable if nothing obvious is found?
> > .
> > Arne, CT, USA
> > =========================
> >
> >
>
>

I'm going to check that area today.... the fuse is plywood on 2 sides and
bottom... the wrinkles on on the top which is sticks..... should be
interesting.... i'll take my time and do it right.....

And thanks for the feedback...... hmm.. tree reached out and grabbed plane..
i like that one. damn tree..
..
Arne, CT, USA
=========================
"JR" <jr-ama732@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:2q5Ra.61328$OZ2.11421@rwcrnsc54...
> From experience, if the covering is wrinkled, there is a reason. I would
> remove it and inspect the wood for cracks. Once it is exposed, twist it a
> little to show the cracks. Simply applying some CA normally takes care of
> any cracks. If you don't inspect it, and you lose the tail, you will spend
a
> lot more time building a new one, not to mention the money and... most
of
> all, the safety considerations can't be ignored.
>
> JR
>
> "Arne Reil" <thereilarne@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:EBXQa.15550$AD3.544@lakeread04...
> > due to decreasing depth perception, on turn to final, i caught my
venture
> 60
> > on a tree, and it fell to the ground in a bunch of shrubs..... damage to
> > plane is minor, ego damage, major.....
> >
> > Something caught the leading edge a couple of inches in from the
outboard
> > wing tip and broke the leading edge (the plane turned into the tree and
> fell
> > to the ground; brush broke the fall).. not too bad to repair..... the
> fuse,
> > just in front to the hor. stab, twisted enough to wrinkle the
covering...
> > nothing appears to be out of whack, but am wondering how to go about
being
> > sure.... my first thought is to use the heat gun on the wrinkles and see
> how
> > it looks afterwards, and cut the covering off between vertical stab and
> fuse
> > to look for cracks..... other then doing some twisting and running my
hand
> > around the back end to feel for cracks, i don't want to remove all the
> rear
> > covering unless i have to.
> >
> > Does this seem reasonable if nothing obvious is found?
> > .
> > Arne, CT, USA
> > =========================
> >
> >
>
>

>And thanks for the feedback...... hmm.. tree reached out and grabbed plane..
>i like that one. damn tree..

A cousin of the ground that jumps up to grab the plane, too.... Andy


We can make a box of wood.....FLY!!

Did that one last summer to a Hobbistar 60. I was demonstrating to my son,
the low, slow approach technique versus the carrier type landing. The east
wind became a south wind and the tree played arresting gear. Similar damage
to your venture 60 was visible. I used the damage as an excuse to peel all
that shelf paper covering. I did not find concealed damage, but a lot poor
workmanship found.
The Hobbistar now sports strengthened construction and a sharp Monokote
finish.

Tom
AMA 17839

Arne Reil <thereilarne@cox.net> wrote in message
news:EBXQa.15550$AD3.544@lakeread04...
> due to decreasing depth perception, on turn to final, i caught my venture
60
> on a tree, and it fell to the ground in a bunch of shrubs..... damage to
> plane is minor, ego damage, major.....
>
> Something caught the leading edge a couple of inches in from the outboard
> wing tip and broke the leading edge (the plane turned into the tree and
fell
> to the ground; brush broke the fall).. not too bad to repair..... the
fuse,
> just in front to the hor. stab, twisted enough to wrinkle the covering...
> nothing appears to be out of whack, but am wondering how to go about being
> sure.... my first thought is to use the heat gun on the wrinkles and see
how
> it looks afterwards, and cut the covering off between vertical stab and
fuse
> to look for cracks..... other then doing some twisting and running my hand
> around the back end to feel for cracks, i don't want to remove all the
rear
> covering unless i have to.
>
> Does this seem reasonable if nothing obvious is found?
> .
> Arne, CT, USA
> =========================
>
>
>