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Old Jan 05, 2011, 02:26 AM
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I just remembered that there is one more *very important* difference between the Safety Switches and the "Replace -100%" method. The Safety Switches disregard limits. They set the output to a set position and that's all. The "R" function does that within the limits.

So if you have a servo in the throttle channel it's best to use the "Replace -100%" method since then you're assured it won't max out and bind.

For electrics using the Safety switches makes more sense.
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Old Jan 05, 2011, 02:30 AM
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question for the gurus......

in the mix section for helis what is the purpose of the CYC1/2/3 mixes and why does it create a CYC mix on CH11 as aposed to building
Mixers

CH01 left side swash servo
+60%ELE
-60%AIL
+70%THR Switch(ID0) Curve(c5)
+70%THR Switch(ID1) Curve(c6)
+70%THR Switch(ID2) Curve(c7)
CH02 right side swash servo
+60%ELE
+60%AIL
+70%THR Switch(ID0) Curve(c5)
+70%THR Switch(ID1) Curve(c6)
+70%THR Switch(ID2) Curve(c7)
CH03 throttle
+100%THR Switch(ID0) Curve(c1)
+100%THR Switch(ID1) Curve(c2)
+100%THR Switch(ID2) Curve(c3)
R +100%THR Switch(THR) Curve(c4)
CH04 rudder
+100%RUD
CH05 gyro rate/heading hold switch with trim pot P2 to fine adjust gyro gain on the fly
+50%P2 Switch(RUD) Offset(100%)
-50%P2 Switch(!RUD) Offset(100%)
CH06 pitch servo, rear swash plate 120 deg servo
-60%ELE
+70%THR Switch(ID0) Curve(c5)
+70%THR Switch(ID1) Curve(c6)
+70%THR Switch(ID2) Curve(c7)
CH07 fligt mode trigger for helo v2 controller
+100%MAX Switch(ID0)
+0%MAX Switch(ID1)
-100%MAX Switch(ID2)
CH08 gov on/off
+100%FULL Switch(AIL)
-100%FULL Switch(!AIL)

when I use the heli template CH1 moves 100% +/- but CH2&3 only move 86.5% with aile input and less for CH2&3 on elev input....why is that?
the above mix setup moves as I need it to to control the swash etc, is this a workable mix as it looks promising so far in the simulate screen?

I need to think about the mix and see if there is a real reason for letting the servos move only 0.86% (Sqrt(3)). As far as pitch is concerned that is correct but for aileron use... Need to think

The reason I use CH11 for building the cyclic mix is because it takes less room in the EEPROM and is easier to edit. Your way is just as correct but may take more computing time (latency) to achieve.
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Old Jan 05, 2011, 03:22 AM
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phantom - this thread is about the add-on board. Please post general questions about the firmware in its thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...9#post17010497
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Old Jan 05, 2011, 04:27 AM
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phantom - this thread is about the add-on board. Please post general questions about the firmware in its thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...9#post17010497
Fair enough, my mistake.
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Old Jan 05, 2011, 05:55 AM
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hi guys, today I ordered a Eurgle radio, it is 3rd generation and my question is.. will this mod ( add on board programmer & EL ) work for me?
I have an Eurgle '2nd Gen' and it is the same as V1. Eurgle just seems to use a different naming. I would expect the '3rd Gen' to be the V2. So it should work just fine.
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Old Jan 05, 2011, 09:50 AM
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hello,
Can you explain me the following mixing: to have a progressive reduction of 5% on the elevator when the Throttle are full.
Thank you for the information.

greetings.

Claude
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Old Jan 05, 2011, 11:30 AM
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ps...can I get bigger receivers for this radio? 9 or more channels?
No such thing, no.


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phantom - this thread is about the add-on board. Please post general questions about the firmware in its thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...9#post17010497
Lol... like we've EVER stayed on topic before!
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Old Jan 05, 2011, 11:41 AM
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ps...can I get bigger receivers for this radio? 9 or more channels?
No. The module uses standard PPM, which is limited to 8 channels.
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Old Jan 05, 2011, 11:52 AM
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little off topic....BUT, just unpacked the new 9x and it works fine but in it's stock form the extra channels are useless as you can't assign them to do squat?

waiting now for my order of the 9x board and EL back light kit........and.....still not here yet, I know the web site said shipping after the 10th of Jan! lol
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Old Jan 05, 2011, 06:02 PM
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What code is used for writing the firmware?
Is it just the old C code, not C++ or later?
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Old Jan 05, 2011, 08:52 PM
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Can you explain me the following mixing: to have a progressive reduction of 5% on the elevator when the Throttle are full.
Thank you for the information.
Radiocloclo

Have you read page 23.... in the following link.?

http://er9x.googlecode.com/svn/trunk...rs%20Guide.pdf

I will try a couple and see if I can help.

Pat
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Old Jan 05, 2011, 10:39 PM
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Radiocloclo

On page 29 of the er9x manual, you will find directions for setting up a custom switch.

Are you using a 9x radio with the ER9x custom firmware?? If so I will send you a pm with a mix I tried and I think works.



Pat
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Old Jan 05, 2011, 11:10 PM
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little off topic....BUT, just unpacked the new 9x and it works fine but in it's stock form the extra channels are useless as you can't assign them to do squat?
You can assign them to do several things. Is there something specific you can't get them to do?
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Old Jan 06, 2011, 12:37 AM
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What code is used for writing the firmware?
Is it just the old C code, not C++ or later?

It's an odd mix of C, C++, ANSI C and ruby. Weird, I know but it works. You can generally treat the code as C++.
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Old Jan 06, 2011, 01:12 AM
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Pat

Yes, I use the last version firmware of er9x with eePe? but I have difficult has to assimilate the mixing, perhaps that if I had an example I would include/understand better.

In advance thank you.

Claude
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