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Old Nov 13, 2010, 03:48 PM
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Spektrum v. Futaba

Ok, so i posted a thread about getting back into R/C and wanting a new radio...great answers..lead to lots of reading. Almost all my stuff [non 2.4] is futaba...so i biased that way..but I have to admit it seems that there is a lot more spektrum stuff out. Is it just me??? also, as far as compatability strikes me that there are a lot of "grey" market spektrum stuff but not futaba. Also lots of spektrum compatable stuff, but not futaba. Is it just me or is this sorta true?? Also, if i were to go with spektrum, will all my futaba servos, wire connectors, extensions etc work with the new tx/rx??? thanks
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Old Nov 13, 2010, 04:20 PM
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Your servos and other items will work with Spektrum and JR. You will need to trim the little tab off the connectors, that that's pretty easy to do as you convert the model.

We (I work for Spektrum) like to see that there's so much more available from us, everything from super micro indoor equipment right on up to 12-channel receivers with redundant power systems.

Andy

BTW, welcome back to RC!
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Old Nov 13, 2010, 04:30 PM
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Ok, so i posted a thread about getting back into R/C and wanting a new radio...great answers..lead to lots of reading. Almost all my stuff [non 2.4] is futaba...so i biased that way..but I have to admit it seems that there is a lot more spektrum stuff out. Is it just me??? also, as far as compatability strikes me that there are a lot of "grey" market spektrum stuff but not futaba. Also lots of spektrum compatable stuff, but not futaba. Is it just me or is this sorta true?? Also, if i were to go with spektrum, will all my futaba servos, wire connectors, extensions etc work with the new tx/rx??? thanks
Do some serious research before buying another brand/system of 2.4 radio... DSM/DSM2 vs. FASST/FHSS

If you've got an airplane worth over $200, I'd go with a Futaba, Airtronics or a HiTech 2.4 radio that uses the FHSS/FASST method of operation in the 2.4 RF spectrum of frequencies.

I can certainly offer you links of the differences (in PM only)... It's better to make an educated purchase. Let me know.
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Old Nov 13, 2010, 05:22 PM
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Futaba 2.4 is better quality than Spektrum so why not just get Futaba. I have a 7c-2.4 and the new 8FGH which in an incredable radio (see the big thread). Spektrum does not have SD storage card, ball bearing sticks, or free user firmware upgrade capability like the 8FG does.
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Old Nov 13, 2010, 05:32 PM
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Seriously RC Man!?!?! 12,591 posts and you don't know that the DX8 has all of those things.

The main radios in competition right now for the middle/high end market ($400+ range) are the Futaba 8FG, Spektrum DX8, Airtronics SD-10G and the Hitec Aurora 9 (See the MASSIVE 739 page thread!)

Mike.
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Old Nov 13, 2010, 05:47 PM
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Spent several years with Spektrum. It is a gamble so if you like to take chances, go with Spektrum. You may have the best luck or you may not. Futaba FASST has a much better record of reliability. I have been using it for just over a year with no issues at all. Hitec seems to be very reliable also. Airtronics has been having issues but they are working on it. Not an easy choice.

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Old Nov 13, 2010, 06:33 PM
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Spent several years with Spektrum. It is a gamble so if you like to take chances, go with Spektrum. You may have the best luck or you may not. Futaba FASST has a much better record of reliability. I have been using it for just over a year with no issues at all. Hitec seems to be very reliable also. Airtronics has been having issues but they are working on it. Not an easy choice.

Charlie
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Let's see your facts .

Opinions are nice but still opinions.
If you make seemingly 'factual' statements then you should share your factual base with us.

I don't think you have anything other than an 'opinion' and a bias to relate.

Mike Mayberry's post is accurate and he represents HiTec !!!
Let's see you do the same.
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Old Nov 13, 2010, 06:41 PM
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Spektrum's a crash waiting to happen...

Go for Hitec, Futaba, Airtronics...

Because Spektrum currently has the most failure-prone transmission scheme, they specialize in selling 'toys' ie. Bind & Fly stuff to entice folks to stay brand-loyal.

One nice point in fact: Spek uses chips commonly utilized in PC keyboards and mice.

Once they get the huevos to move to a hopping system with architecture specifically engineered for RC-use, then all bets are off... But that's not now, that's in some nebulous 'future'...
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Old Nov 13, 2010, 06:56 PM
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Spektrum's a crash waiting to happen...
My wait has been about 3 years and ~4000 flights so far.

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One nice point in fact: Spek uses chips commonly utilized in PC keyboards and mice.
Using/reusing well established and debugged parts is always an engineering plus.
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Old Nov 13, 2010, 07:05 PM
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My wait has been about 3 years and ~4000 flights so far.



Using/reusing well established and debugged parts is always an engineering plus.
Either way, folks are better off protecting their investments with more reliable gear.
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Old Nov 13, 2010, 07:11 PM
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Well, according to the last printed issue of RC Reports, Spektrum/JR tested best, with Futaba a pretty close second, and Airtronics a very distant third. This was based on having up to 50 other mixed brand 2.4GHz transmitters operating closer to the plane than the controlling transmitter, in normal flying and range test conditions as well as full strength range testing using full size planes with servos mounted on them.

The Hitec wasn't out then. Do we have a more thorough and up-to-date test than that one?
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Old Nov 13, 2010, 07:33 PM
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Either way, folks are better off protecting their investments with more reliable gear.
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Simply more wind . Right?

Facts are getting very lonesome here .

Nothing wrong with having a personal bias, --- just don't present it as a
fact.

If you accept user expenditures of personal assets for RC equipment as a reliable measure - they put their money where there preferences (biases) were - then the answer today would clearly be DSM2 due to the population.

BUT, that isn't 'any sort' of scientific fact really it is simply their considered 'vote' as to what is best in their eyes.

It IS however more substantial then "poster proclamations" which here have been presented as factual, which they are not --- no data to this time submitted .

Have a bias; have a personal preference: that's OK. But don't wrap it in "FACTUAL" clothes when it clearly is not anything of the sort.
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Old Nov 13, 2010, 07:44 PM
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This poll is kind of interesting: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1117638

Using data from that poll to compare the main brands of 2.4GHz signal technology and their cumulative reliability we get the following percentages of fail safe free operation:
  • Hitec 90.9%
  • Futaba 89.7%
  • Airtronics 87.5%
  • Assan 66.7%
  • Spektrum 65.2%
  • XPS 63.2%

In particular, notice the significant gap between Airtronics, Futaba, Hitec, and Assan, Spektrum, XPS.
How much weight this data holds is of course open to interpretation...
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Old Nov 13, 2010, 07:51 PM
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At the field last week.....

Pilot #1 Hey Bud, what happened?

Pilot #2 (holding a crashed plane) I crashed hard, no signal.. I got a lock-out... I think. I'll check my tattle-tale data device, these little gems tell you what happened to your signal.

Pilot #1 Hmm? That's nice, but that's an ODD feature. Anyway, are your batteries charged?

Pilot #2 Yes, they're fully charged.

Pilot #1 Well, I hate to say it to ya, but I think your Spektrum Wrecked 'em.

Pilot #2 I think you're 100% accurate about that. By the way... I hear Futaba has a good, honest and reliable radio. I'm gonna try one out.... You always have no problems, that must be a nice feeling.

Pilot #1 Good move Bud, good move. Just remember buddy, "Buy Cheap and You'll Buy Twice".


Let the flames begin....
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Old Nov 13, 2010, 07:57 PM
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Well, according to the last printed issue of RC Reports, Spektrum/JR tested best, with Futaba a pretty close second, and Airtronics a very distant third.
Tested 'Best" in terms of what?... it's reliability? If that's the case then the report is PURE HOGWASH.
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