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Old Oct 22, 2012, 05:06 PM
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NIce looking heli AS. What motor are you running in that ?

Happy Flying !!!

Bill S.
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 01:30 AM
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Trex 500 with Microbeast and analog Hitec HS-225MG's on cyclic: [Vid]
I'm not saying that analog doesn't work. If something fly well, it flies well - digital or not. I'm just say that all things considered, digital is preferable. It's not necessary, but it's preferable, especially now that the price difference isn't what it used to be.

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One interesting thing about analog servos, they are less likely to strip in a crash than a digital because they don't hold position as strongly.
You mentioned digital being more likely to strip because of the holding torque. Yeah, that sounds a little more likely but I'd rather build a heli to fly better, not crash better.

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The hotrod version sounds awesome! Did you need a beefier motor to compensate for the extra weight and do the 306s fit in the slots without trimming also?
The TGY-306G's do fit the stock slots. That was in a Pro V2 though, where the servo bodies stick out from the frame. I'm not sure about other 450 models. They weigh 21g each but the length and width is the standard "9g servo" size. For three cyclic servos, the TGY-306G's will add 23g over the stock Align DS410M servos. I don't imagine that adding 23g to a 450 would require a beefier motor but I couldn't say honestly. It was a 4S setup so I was already running a lower KV motor.

For the "hotrod" 450 Pro V2 setup, I was also using a Savox SH-0262MG tail servo, Phoenix Ice Lite 50 ESC for the governor and programmable BEC voltage, Spektrum telemetry, DFC head, the new double pivot tail assembly (Align H45181), slant/helical main gears, miscellaneous CNC upgrades and two-piece skids. I just like those skids better for some reason. It seemed like a nice setup once I got the cyclic gain worked out on the gyro but I bought a Gaui X5 around the same time and flying the 450 just wasn't the same.
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 07:21 AM
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....the new double pivot tail assembly (Align H45181)
Wow, never knew this existed! I've always hated the sloppy single sided stock arrangement! Pity it comes at such a premium!
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 09:30 AM
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And with MKS not using chinese factories it's very unlikely that they are "unauthorized" relabels like what happened with the YGE ESC's.
AS - is there any info to support that? I have a number of YEP's (as well as an ICE from HIModel which is the same. I'm really really happy with them, but they are much larger than the equivalent YGE's.

I'm not trying to start an arguement - just wondering if this is for real or one of the urban myths that we get occasionally.

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Old Oct 24, 2012, 06:45 PM
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Trex 500 with Microbeast and analog Hitec HS-225MG's on cyclic:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krsb4AzkZ2k

One interesting thing about analog servos, they are less likely to strip in a crash than a digital because they don't hold position as strongly. The HS-65MG almost never strips while HS-5065MG strips so regularly in crashes that you're better off replacing the metal gears with carbon after the first crash because they're cheaper and the metal ones strip anyway. (The gear train in the HS-5065 is the same as the HS-65 so you can use the carbon HS-65 gear set)
very nice flying AS
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Old Oct 24, 2012, 06:54 PM
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One interesting thing about analog servos, they are less likely to strip in a crash than a digital because they don't hold position as strongly. The HS-65MG almost never strips while HS-5065MG strips so regularly in crashes that you're better off replacing the metal gears with carbon after the first crash because they're cheaper and the metal ones strip anyway. (The gear train in the HS-5065 is the same as the HS-65 so you can use the carbon HS-65 gear set)
Are the carbon gears the gearset for the HS-65HB ? I think hobbyking sells them ? I'm running 5065's so I might stock up on these if they are the right ones ?

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Old Oct 24, 2012, 07:32 PM
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Do the new HK 450 Pro V2 FBL helis come with helical main gears and pinion?
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Old Oct 24, 2012, 07:42 PM
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Do the new HK 450 Pro V2 FBL helis come with helical main gears and pinion?
Not on mine!
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Old Oct 24, 2012, 07:59 PM
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NIce looking heli AS. What motor are you running in that ?

Happy Flying !!!

Bill S.
2100kv Turnigy (one of the red and chrome Suppo relables). It's a 4S heli.
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Old Oct 24, 2012, 08:01 PM
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very nice flying AS
That isn't me, it's just an example of an FBL on analog servos I found on Youtube.
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Old Oct 24, 2012, 08:02 PM
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Are the carbon gears the gearset for the HS-65HB ? I think hobbyking sells them ? I'm running 5065's so I might stock up on these if they are the right ones ?

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I'm pretty sure that they are.
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Old Oct 25, 2012, 08:20 AM
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Guys the robird fbl unit is now available at HK

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...ss_System.html




Our friend Zaihan testing the robird
Tarot Pro 450 V2 w Robird G31 (2 min 42 sec)
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Old Oct 25, 2012, 08:50 AM
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Looks like Tarot is changing as well.
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Old Oct 25, 2012, 08:54 AM
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Also new Devo FPV 7tx
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Old Oct 25, 2012, 11:57 AM
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I use this one and free shipping . I hate to pay for crazy shipping
http://www.scaleflying.com/Black-Wid...SB_p_2600.html
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