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Old Aug 25, 2012, 07:50 PM
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The corners in that antenna aren't sharp. Does this matter? I'm thinking it does...
Not at all. Actually the only detriment is that the wire is flat and not rounded.

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Old Aug 25, 2012, 08:11 PM
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Not at all. Actually the only detriment is that the wire is flat and not rounded.

-Alex
Hmm, just out of curiosity, how would the signal and performance be affected if instead of two squares, you just used two loops of wire. I assume the polarization would be very erratic?
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Old Aug 25, 2012, 08:40 PM
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Hi Alex,

I am using your SPW/CL for my 1.2 video link and they are just great. Now I would like get better on the RC link. I know most of you would say: go for UHF, but for the moment I only have 2.4 as an available solution (Spektrum DX8).

With that said I have rather no options on the RX side as it is fix part of my setup (I think it is just non-mod part of my system). However on the TX side the sky is the limit

I have already mod my TX in the way that I can plug in any antenna via SMA connector.

So, after reading many threads on different antennas I came to a conclusion that biquad is possibly my best option. Am I right? Most of you here are using it for video and on the RX. I will be using it on the RC and TX - will this work anyway?

The other concern is that I will have no diversity solution, so will not be able to put two of biquads in order to increase my coverage (horizontally). Is this something to be taken into consideration?
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Old Aug 27, 2012, 09:27 AM
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Alex, I have been reading this thread lately,

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1702036

I am thinking I want to build my own biquad for my Frysky tx module. Does the reverse polarity change the construction at all? Do I still connect the coax to the reflector and the cntr conductor to the element?

Thanx in advance for your help.
Update; Tried my homemade biquad yesterday on my frsky module and I got 5381mtrs (3.3 mi) with no faisafes. Was really nice to fly as I didnt have to keep Tx pointed at plane. I turned around because I started losing video. Looks like I will be building a Biquad for that. (using Alex's homemade patch right now)
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Old Aug 27, 2012, 02:22 PM
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I actually have one of those. Not perfect, but certainly awesome. And for that price, it's a heck of a deal!

-Alex
thanks for the reply.
finally got round to building my own tonight for 1280

will be attempting a 5.8 one soon
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Old Aug 30, 2012, 08:58 AM
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Can i use 2.4mm Copper Coated Steel wire (TIG welding feeder) for 1280mhz frequency?
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Old Aug 30, 2012, 11:54 AM
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Absolutely!
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Old Aug 31, 2012, 02:18 PM
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Hi Alex,

I am using your SPW/CL for my 1.2 video link and they are just great. Now I would like get better on the RC link. I know most of you would say: go for UHF, but for the moment I only have 2.4 as an available solution (Spektrum DX8).

With that said I have rather no options on the RX side as it is fix part of my setup (I think it is just non-mod part of my system). However on the TX side the sky is the limit

I have already mod my TX in the way that I can plug in any antenna via SMA connector.

So, after reading many threads on different antennas I came to a conclusion that biquad is possibly my best option. Am I right? Most of you here are using it for video and on the RX. I will be using it on the RC and TX - will this work anyway?

The other concern is that I will have no diversity solution, so will not be able to put two of biquads in order to increase my coverage (horizontally). Is this something to be taken into consideration?
A biquad would do well. Expect about 4X range or so if you are able to aim it properly.

-Alex
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Old Sep 19, 2012, 06:15 PM
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Well its not perfect but it seems to work. I made it for 2.4Ghz and will try it out this coming weekend. For now I just hooked it up to my WIFI and saw networks that I have never seen before so Im thinking its doing a good job.

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Old Sep 19, 2012, 06:20 PM
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^That's what I use my BiQuad for: WiFi sniffing

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Old Sep 19, 2012, 06:55 PM
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Just to make sure I understand this: you're using a FrSky module with a Bi-Quad antenna for RC control at over 5km? That sounds like a great solution, although you need to keep it pointed at the plane with a reasonable degree of accuracy.

So here's the next logical step for that setup....mount a suitable directional antenna for RC control beside your video Rx bi-quad/patch/helical on the same antenna tracker.

For many hobbyists, this could be a genuinely viable alternative to $300+ UHF systems to achieve moderate range.
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Old Sep 20, 2012, 07:13 PM
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Just to make sure I understand this: you're using a FrSky module with a Bi-Quad antenna for RC control at over 5km? That sounds like a great solution, although you need to keep it pointed at the plane with a reasonable degree of accuracy.

So here's the next logical step for that setup....mount a suitable directional antenna for RC control beside your video Rx bi-quad/patch/helical on the same antenna tracker.

For many hobbyists, this could be a genuinely viable alternative to $300+ UHF systems to achieve moderate range.
Yes that is what I use. I have now been to 5550 mtrs with this setup however I got a failsafe at that distance. I believe I was to low and under the antenna beam.
Next time I go I plan to use an angle finder to carefully set the ant angle. I use a magnetic compass to set my ant direction.
So far this has been a low cost,simple solution for med range flights.
Also check out this thread.

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1702036
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Old Sep 25, 2012, 10:59 PM
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Here are a couple I did. The 5.8 is not an easy one.
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Old Sep 27, 2012, 06:05 AM
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Would it be really bad to use a 200x300mm copper PCB to use with 910/980Mhz?
I couldn't find bigger PCB's that this and I know it's falling shorter than the expected size. (320x320mm)
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Old Sep 27, 2012, 07:40 AM
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I found that 1/8 wavelength minimum from the ends of the antenna element is good. So your 200 x 300 mm is spot on.
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