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Old Jul 31, 2012, 05:21 PM
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Torque rolls ????? On stock setup???? I would love to see.
Yes, I can manage a torque roll and a half on a calm day. If I ever find anyone at my local field who can video halfway decent I will try to upload a video.
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Old Jul 31, 2012, 05:25 PM
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Man, I'm having issues with take offs..
I give it slow power, tail picks up and then noes goes in and shortens my prop..

4 attemps and still the noes goes in the ground during take off...

HELP

I did manage two flights with it about an hour ago, and one was on 4s.. that was a blast!
I'm going out flying this weekend, I will try to have someone video my take offs that way I can upload it here. Also note that I always attempt 'scale' take offs, however this p-47 will take off if in just inches if you gun it and get it up as fast as possible.
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Old Jul 31, 2012, 05:37 PM
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Manage your elevator as you are taking off. I typically start with elevator full-up/back and release back pressure on the stick as the plane increases its speed. It may take a time or two to get used to this, but the Spitfire and Corsair are the same in the St. Augustine grass we have here in East Texas; apply some up elevator and release just enough to let the plane get level and then you can milk it up off the ground as the plane has enough speed to fly safely.

Oh, and never use flaps on takeoff. These little planes don't ever need them to get off the ground, and will actually make takeoffs more difficult and dangerous.
YEP I LIFT OFF THE SAME WAY-The pz p-47 is the best imho of the pz warbird line-i just love this warbird
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Old Jul 31, 2012, 06:21 PM
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You guys having problems taking off, are you on pavement or grass? If grass, you have to "bump" the throttle a few times as you accelerate. There's no such thing as smooth acceleration on grass with the P-47 without nosing over. Once the wheels are rolling you can push the throttle up to full, just don't "jam it up" trying to do those 3 foot take offs.
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Old Jul 31, 2012, 06:26 PM
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Moonbeam, you broke a magnet loose
That was my 1st though until I checked and discovered they were all in place and secure......
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Old Jul 31, 2012, 06:35 PM
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Manage your elevator as you are taking off. I typically start with elevator full-up/back and release back pressure on the stick as the plane increases its speed. It may take a time or two to get used to this, but the Spitfire and Corsair are the same in the St. Augustine grass we have here in East Texas; apply some up elevator and release just enough to let the plane get level and then you can milk it up off the ground as the plane has enough speed to fly safely.

Oh, and never use flaps on takeoff. These little planes don't ever need them to get off the ground, and will actually make takeoffs more difficult and dangerous.
+1 on what he said. No problemmo
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Old Jul 31, 2012, 07:33 PM
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Brushless, it may not be so much you as the plane. Did you put washers in the back of the retracts to get wheels out more inline with the leading edge? Also, a nose heavy plane will be---nose heavy. don't use flaps to take off as that exacerbates the nose overs on take off if it is really nose heavy. Grass is also tough to take off from.
I did notice my wheels have a toe in..
moved them more straight and I am using black top as my runway..
thank you..

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Manage your elevator as you are taking off. I typically start with elevator full-up/back and release back pressure on the stick as the plane increases its speed. It may take a time or two to get used to this, but the Spitfire and Corsair are the same in the St. Augustine grass we have here in East Texas; apply some up elevator and release just enough to let the plane get level and then you can milk it up off the ground as the plane has enough speed to fly safely.

Oh, and never use flaps on takeoff. These little planes don't ever need them to get off the ground, and will actually make takeoffs more difficult and dangerous.
You guys are great!
FLAPS!
no I did not know not to use them on take off..
ok one issues down and out..

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I'm going out flying this weekend, I will try to have someone video my take offs that way I can upload it here. Also note that I always attempt 'scale' take offs, however this p-47 will take off if in just inches if you gun it and get it up as fast as possible.
Awesome thank you!!

I hope to fly again in an hour or so...
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Old Aug 01, 2012, 07:46 AM
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Easing takeoff from grass

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Manage your elevator as you are taking off. I typically start with elevator full-up/back and release back pressure on the stick as the plane increases its speed. It may take a time or two to get used to this, but the Spitfire and Corsair are the same in the St. Augustine grass we have here in East Texas; apply some up elevator and release just enough to let the plane get level and then you can milk it up off the ground as the plane has enough speed to fly safely.

Oh, and never use flaps on takeoff. These little planes don't ever need them to get off the ground, and will actually make takeoffs more difficult and dangerous.
+ above - I also use an 8' section of carpet runner obtained at Home Depot as a short runway when taking off from grass. It is about 2.5' wide with a smooth finish and rubber coating on bottom. Helps get planes like the P47 and my Habu moving forward with less "friction" to build up eough momentum and air over elevator to prevent nose over. If only I was good enough to make carrier landings on the rug I could eliminate ocaisional nose over on grass landings!
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Old Aug 01, 2012, 08:27 AM
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so is the 60mm CG the spot to go with?
thanks
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Old Aug 01, 2012, 10:40 AM
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Yes 60mm is correct. Just be careful if you are using a CG jig not to put dents in the foam. I have since glassed over the gear well and put a small patch of glass on top of the wing where I dented the foam during balancing. I have thick fingers so I always use the jig to be accurate.
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Old Aug 01, 2012, 11:02 AM
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Yes 60mm is correct. Just be careful if you are using a CG jig not to put dents in the foam. I have since glassed over the gear well and put a small patch of glass on top of the wing where I dented the foam during balancing. I have thick fingers so I always use the jig to be accurate.
Just another option... a "balancing lug/eye-bolt" permanently glued at the CG. Once it's in you can always shift load to balance where you want... Just fashion a small hook to balance, one handed.. GdLk, and flyflyfly
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Old Aug 01, 2012, 11:32 AM
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I like that idea ddog343! I'll have to try that.
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Old Aug 01, 2012, 12:03 PM
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Had some fun with my P-47 and my GoPro last weekend, caught a snapshot of a rough landing.
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Old Aug 01, 2012, 01:08 PM
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Love the hook idea!
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Old Aug 01, 2012, 01:31 PM
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That was my 1st though until I checked and discovered they were all in place and secure......
Bring your motor over an we can do some surgery!

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