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Old Mar 23, 2012, 10:22 PM
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hi marshal dillon; Ive got the dx6i tx and been flying all my warbirds(e-flite p-38,pz 109,pz p-47,pz p-51, and pz spitfire)without expo.I'VE TRYED IT,but go without.I've always read that expo is all pilot's preference.I just go smooth -light pressure on my sticks.I do use 100% throws on high rates and 70%on low rates.I just use high rates when i want to do loops,rolls invert,etc and low when cruising around and landing.GENTS- is this just another way that i'm a freak or does anyone else fly this way? It just really works for me and thats the way i look at expo-whatever works for you-discuss Good flying mates-kevin
Hey, Kev. Hope all is well, Buddy. I'm with you and Alpha in that I believe I'm going to go with 0% expo. I nearly crashed today several times using 25% expo, as I just felt like I didn't have the precise control I've quickly become used to with the Jug. I like her as a "point and shoot" bird and prefer that level of responsiveness.

However, that said, I believe I'm going to go with 70% rates on aileron and rudder with 100% throw on the elevator. I'm hoping the extra elevator travel will help me bring her in slower for a softer landing (no flaps yet) since I'm flying on grass. Any feedback on whether this sounds logical or not is more than welcome, as I'm new to flying and the Jug is my first plane.
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Old Mar 23, 2012, 11:11 PM
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I like 100 for authority on the ground taking off but land at my low 70. Works fine. Try it out though seeing is believing. Mine settles in nicely at 70 but can slow almost too much at 100 and get wing rocky. If she rocks your flirting with a stall. Best of luck to you. I fly off grass.
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Old Mar 23, 2012, 11:12 PM
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sniff-sniff so you mean i'm not alone in this world? marshal dillon what i've done on my dx6i is i've programed my low(70%) and high rates(100%) for my rudder,elevator and ailerons all on one switch.The switch i picked for this was the"ail dir"switch ontop right of the tx face next to the throttle cut.I FIGURE THAT LOW WOULD BE TOGGLE DOWN AND HIGH WOULD BE TOGGLE UP.IT'S ONLY IMHO THAT ANY THING A GUY CAN FIGURE TO SIMPLIFY IS ONLY GOING TO HELP.I have flaps and gear on my jug and sometimes i practice dropping flaps and gear without looking at the tx. THIS IS WHAT WORKS GOOD FOR ME -I wish you the best of luck as you're realitively a newbie eh? your in a good place here on rcg as there's lot's of dudes willing to help out.I DON'T KNOW EVERY THING FOR SURE BUT ,MY 4 YEAROLD DAUGHTER DOES!
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Old Mar 23, 2012, 11:14 PM
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I like 100 for authority on the ground taking off but land at my low 70. Works fine. Try it out though seeing is believing. Mine settles in nicely at 70 but can slow almost too much at 100 and get wing rocky. If she rocks your flirting with a stall. Best of luck to you. I fly off grass.
Sound advice, RZ. Thank you, my friend.
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Old Mar 23, 2012, 11:30 PM
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I fly my P-47 with out dual rates or expo, even though I have set it up.... The only planes I fly with dual rates and expo is my MX Extra and my pylon racers. Like others, in this type of plane it is more personal preference.

For 3D, Expo and DR is a way of life....
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Old Mar 23, 2012, 11:48 PM
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...all on one switch.The switch i picked for this was the"ail dir"switch ontop right of the tx face next to the throttle cut.I FIGURE THAT LOW WOULD BE TOGGLE DOWN AND HIGH WOULD BE TOGGLE UP.IT'S ONLY IMHO THAT ANY THING A GUY CAN FIGURE TO SIMPLIFY IS ONLY GOING TO HELP.I have flaps and gear on my jug and sometimes i practice dropping flaps and gear without looking at the tx.
Makes perfect sense to me...down = low rates and up = high rates. Tough to screw that up under pressure in flight. I also like the 1 switch idea. I'm going to set this up tomorrow, as it definitely sounds like it streamlines things a bit.

I also like your idea of practicing finding the switches without looking at the TX. I haven't done this yet but I plan to. Great reminder. I have had some trouble trimming in flight because I'm a noob and typically nervous as all get out while in flight, although I'm getting more calm and poised with each drained LiPo.

Unfortunately, I'm looking at rain and decent winds all weekend so no flying here. I'm glad I got to fly this morning.
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Old Mar 24, 2012, 03:34 PM
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I maidened mine yesterday with 100% throws and no expo. Haven't ever really set expos up. It was very touchy, but I managed to not crash and flew decently. It was intimidating, but Im sure if I set up dual rates and expo it would be a little more easy for me to fly.
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I maidened mine yesterday with 100% throws and no expo. Haven't ever really set expos up. It was very touchy, but I managed to not crash and flew decently. It was intimidating, but Im sure if I set up dual rates and expo it would be a little more easy for me to fly.
I have to hand it to you for a maiden with full rates. I was nervous as hell on 70/30 rates. I still fly on low rates when flying it after a lay off, but after the 1st battery I'm back to full rates. I'm going to bump it up with a power 15 and 50A ESC I have and set the ailerons for more throw.

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Old Mar 24, 2012, 10:15 PM
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I maidened mine yesterday with 100% throws and no expo. Haven't ever really set expos up. It was very touchy, but I managed to not crash and flew decently. It was intimidating, but Im sure if I set up dual rates and expo it would be a little more easy for me to fly.
Nice job, Tubbster. Glad you got 'er up and down safely.
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Old Mar 25, 2012, 09:37 AM
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Thanks guys, Im going to work on setting up dual rates on one switch on my DX6i today. I really want to set up flaps on her to slow her down a bit, but that will have to wait a while, just bought some Sky Lipo 2650 30C batteries.
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Parkzone P-47D Thunderbolt Pt 2. Lunchtime In The Wind

Here is Part Two of the Parkzone P-47 this time flying in a very strong wind. The footage is not quiet as good as part one's and needed a little editing. Corinnes arm and aim was getting a little tired after a few hours shooting planes, BUT! this still shows the P-47's flying ability in the wind and proves wind or no wind, this plane is a real keeper, it looks and flys so well, in any conditions

cheers chuck

Parkzone P-47D Thunderbolt Pt 2. Lunchtime In The Wind (6 min 50 sec)
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Old Mar 25, 2012, 09:53 AM
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Nice vid Chuck. Sure was windy out there, but she looked like she floated in quite nice!
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Here is Part Two of the Parkzone P-47 this time flying in a very strong wind. The footage is not quiet as good as part one's and needed a little editing. Corinnes arm and aim was getting a little tired after a few hours shooting planes, BUT! this still shows the P-47's flying ability in the wind and proves wind or no wind, this plane is a real keeper, it looks and flys so well, in any conditions

cheers chuck

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQBrTfUk2CM
Chuck, I don't know how you fly there with all those trees in the way

Your camera gal did a great job by the way!

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Old Mar 25, 2012, 10:05 AM
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I was just thinking that it would be so nice to fly in a place like that with no trees! But here in the Pacific NW, we sure have no shortage!
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Old Mar 25, 2012, 11:19 AM
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Hi

I've just picked up the BNF version. I can see that the manual advises that the CG should be 60mm but even with the supplied LiPo (all the way forward as suggested), it seems quite a bit nose heavy. I would have expected that the BNF setup would have balanced properly out of the box. Am I right in thinking that people have had to add extra weight to the back with the stock setup ? I've done a 'balance' search but most comments about CG seem to relate to modified versions.

Are people measuring from the end of the curve where the wing meets the fuselage or right before the curve starts, which is my preferred option ?

Thanks
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