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Old Dec 06, 2010, 10:43 PM
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Yeah... I've been wondering that as well. I've gotten a ton of comments & questions on this plane as a "transition plane from epp" on my blog as I'm a EPP blogger www.3dpastor.blogspot.com but personally, I'm still not sold on it / I still prefer the epp options available in this size range. I think there are planes in the same size range, made of epp - that are just as good performance wise, yet retain the resilience of epp - and are cheaper! :-) For instance, The Bouncer from tufflight.com is my latest build - and I find it more than capable. Put Quique on the sticks and I'm sure he could make it look as good as his Carbon Z. :-)

My 2 cents. lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3Vw6KcZmCM
I don't see the yak as simply a transitional plane from EPP, but a very potent and versatile aerobatic, pattern and 3D plane that is a great step for people who are progressing from a variety of disciplines. I love flying profile foamies, they fly slow, fly precise, and can take hundreds of bumps and bruises, but at somewhere around 1/2 to 1/3 the weight, power and wing loading of a balsa 3D plane with similar dimentions, they just can't pull the fast spins and fast aerobatics of the multi-role planes. Same with sport planes, they are usually set up for faster flight, lower static TW ratios and have smaller surfaces in order to make them not as twitchy at higher speeds, and as a result suffer in post stall manuvers. The Yak seems aimed squarely at the smaller 3DHS 3D planes, and should be able to do everything from slow and low 3D to fast patterns, perhaps with a flip of the DR switch or a prop change. If it lives up to the hype, it should be somewhat easy for those progressing from parkzone warbirds to get into mixed 3D and aerobatics, those moving from profile foamies to include more capabilities for IMAC style aerobatics, and people flying high end 3DHS planes for a cheap and simple practice beater. Hopefully we can find out soon if it lives up to the hype.
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Old Dec 07, 2010, 11:51 PM
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alucard0822,

I agree with you 100%. I had (still have, actually) the Multiplex Acromaster which was a great transition plane between a trainer and a real pattern plane. Though touted as a pattern/3D plane, the design was really for "pattern practice" and didn't 3D very well. I'm guessing that the Carbon-Z Yak will be to 3D what the Acromaster was for pattern - it should fly just like its balsa couterparts but without the fear of crashing it.

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Old Dec 08, 2010, 06:33 AM
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stopped by my LHS last night, looks like this is scheduled to ship 12-10
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Old Dec 09, 2010, 09:51 AM
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I don't see the yak as simply a transitional plane from EPP, but a very potent and versatile aerobatic, pattern and 3D plane that is a great step for people who are progressing from a variety of disciplines. I love flying profile foamies, they fly slow, fly precise, and can take hundreds of bumps and bruises, but at somewhere around 1/2 to 1/3 the weight, power and wing loading of a balsa 3D plane with similar dimentions, they just can't pull the fast spins and fast aerobatics of the multi-role planes. Same with sport planes, they are usually set up for faster flight, lower static TW ratios and have smaller surfaces in order to make them not as twitchy at higher speeds, and as a result suffer in post stall manuvers. The Yak seems aimed squarely at the smaller 3DHS 3D planes, and should be able to do everything from slow and low 3D to fast patterns, perhaps with a flip of the DR switch or a prop change. If it lives up to the hype, it should be somewhat easy for those progressing from parkzone warbirds to get into mixed 3D and aerobatics, those moving from profile foamies to include more capabilities for IMAC style aerobatics, and people flying high end 3DHS planes for a cheap and simple practice beater. Hopefully we can find out soon if it lives up to the hype.
Definitely get your point - no argument from me on it either - its a good point. We will all find out soon, as you said, if it will indeed lives up to the hype or not. Thanks for the thorough, yet kind reply.
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Old Dec 09, 2010, 11:33 AM
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I like the size of the plane !!!
I will try at least ONE plane ....
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Old Dec 09, 2010, 07:04 PM
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Yaks will begin shipping in the US tomorrow.
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Old Dec 09, 2010, 09:49 PM
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Yaks will begin shipping in the US tomorrow.

You guys are awesome, I'm Doin the happy dance!!!
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Old Dec 11, 2010, 04:25 AM
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Not posted in a while. Have been waiting 2 fly this and got my chance a few days ago. Normally fly only balsa this size (Sebart Katana 30e, Precision Aerobatics Extra 260). This yak is pure fun, yep it has a higher wing loading than previous planes mentioned, but 2 me this added 2 the fun. Perfect linkage geometry with surface horn attachment directly over the hinge line. No coupling in slow high alpha knife edge BUT it was real windy. This is what surprised me as it flew pattern superbly in turbulent wind but still 3D'd well also. Flat spins upright, inverted, knife edge spins really excell from extra weight. Have to admit I did drop it a few times unexpectedly on full stall landings due wing loading as used to sebart katana 30e and PA extra 260. Only had one flight on the plane as a mates but have to say i was really surprised how much fun i had. The stock power setup was odd for me to 3D as it seemed laggy until i got used to it. Very different to VOX 14x7 on 3s etc but loved the power when it winds out. Overall Great combo of Power,3D, Precision, Control Surface Geometry,STRONG landing gear and FUN.
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Old Dec 11, 2010, 06:29 PM
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Four Carbon-Z Yaks were in stock at the LHS this morning!
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Old Dec 11, 2010, 11:14 PM
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I have one of these on order. I assume that the servos on this plane are not junk servos?!?!? What a bummer if I have to immediately tear this plane down and change out the servos to MGs or Karbonites.

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Old Dec 11, 2010, 11:15 PM
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Four Carbon-Z Yaks were in stock at the LHS this morning!
Hey tdriedger! Is that small hobbyshop still in San Carlos? Can't remember the name, it's been something like 20yrs since I went there when I was in HS Oh! the memories!!
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Old Dec 12, 2010, 07:06 PM
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Yaks will begin shipping in the US tomorrow.

I put my backorder in but see it says now shipping late december..... Are they going to ship before or after christmas??? Thanks~
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Old Dec 13, 2010, 02:41 PM
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I put my backorder in but see it says now shipping late december..... Are they going to ship before or after christmas??? Thanks~
As I said above, we started shipping last Friday the 10th. Usually we ship to dealers who participated in the launch program first, followed by all other orders a few days later.

We should be caught up shipping all orders before Christmas.
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Old Dec 13, 2010, 08:08 PM
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just got home from a quick trip to my LHS to pick up some stuff I'd ordered and guess what they got in today... (3) Carbon-Z Yaks!! two BNF's and a PNP


ooooh man was it hard to not take one of them home with me aaarrrghh
(I'm waiting on the ParkZone P-47)
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Old Dec 15, 2010, 02:51 PM
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............waiting for Atlanta Hobby to ship mine now.
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