Please get Pheonix to add this to the Simulator!!!!

Originally Posted by tdriedger

51" AJ Slick
Wingspan: 51"
Length: 51"
Wing Area: 535 sq.in.
Weight (RTF): 55-63 oz.

Carbon-Z Yak 54
Wingspan: 48"
Length: 48.5"
Wing Area: 525 sq.in.
Weight (RTF): 60-61 oz.

... and the Slick spec calls for a smaller battery - 2200-2650mAh vs 2800-3200mAh

The Carbon-Z Yak 54 48" is a brick infront of PA Extra MX (58") included a 6S battery and the setup produces mighty 1000 Watts :-) Lets not compare it with that league

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Wingspan: 1,472mm / 58 in
Length: 1316.5mm / 51.83 in
Flying weight (including batteries): approx 1750g / 61.7oz /3.85lb
Wing area: 721 sq inch
Wing loading: 12oz/sq.ft

Looks cool, and should be a big step up from the Extra300 for sport and IMAC flying, but the weight and 16.2oz/sq ft wing loading might be tough to overcome for 3D, just a hair lighter than the 17.25oz/sq ft wing loading on the Extra300 that Horizon states is too much for 3D. The video looks awesome, but I'm sure most demo pilots on Horizon's payroll could make a flying toaster look impressive, it remains to be seen how it's slow and post stall characheristics are with the "average" 3Der. The price is steep, but really is in the same ballpark as an ARF built similarly, and if it has the same rigidity as balsa and approaching composite, but the repairability of foam it might be a nice user friendly alternative. If it has the throws, "minimal coupling" design and control to overcome the weight, then I'd love to pick one up, but I fear it's a 60" plane stuffed into a 48" package, wider than scale wings or a pound lighter would have probably helped. However the design is cool, and I can't wait to see what is next, a 48" BNF Beast or Challenger III would lower the wing loading a lot, and be pretty cool.

Kind of scary posting new airplanes in this forum sometimes. While comparisons are great and will always be made it is always fun to see the views of members on how an airplane should be made.........and how it should fly well before the airplane even makes it into a single consumers home.

Tim

My only concern is price. Most Eflite planes are decent. This one seems high. However in today's economy most will complain either way. I would like to see one on the sim, or in person. Looks like a nice plane. Only time will tell.

HH is coming out with so many new planes I can't keep up!

I own and fly different types of foam airplanes. The new model looks like someone has put in a lot of time and effort into the design. I own several Multiplex airplanes paying higher prices for quality and proper design, I have no regrets. Anyone notice the fully air-foiled tail control surfaces? Considering the quality of the airframe along with quality electronics the prices seems very good. The big advantage of foam is durability, ease of repair and cost of replacement parts.

Does anyone know if they are using a larger version of a metal bell outrunner like the Parkzone Extra 300?

Originally Posted by sun.flyer

Kind of scary posting new airplanes in this forum sometimes. While comparisons are great and will always be made it is always fun to see the views of members on how an airplane should be made.........and how it should fly well before the airplane even makes it into a single consumers home.

Tim

I agree 100%. Hopefully when the plane is in the hands of the masses the reviews from end users will be unbiased and fair. The concept looks good to me,not sure why balsa arfs are put on such a pedestal by some only considering the design material used for this plane alone.

I think E-Flite have done a pretty good job with this one, I think it fills the gap between profile foamies and full on balsa 3D ships. Still easily repairable and looks like it fly's well and does most if not every 3D in the book.

Tim, will you be getting this one for review? If so, I look forward to it.

Originally Posted by lightspeeddud

why would I pay $400 for an carbon added flying beer cooler?

I love parkzone foam planes and horizon too, but really $400 just because its some new foam carbon infused?

I completely agree, if I pay that much I prefer balsa no foam.

Originally Posted by RCBABBEL

QuiQue has some excellent thoughts in the vid.
Thanks for that.

UM side bonus for me...
Seeing the UMX Beast next to the UM 4-site.
Just the size I was hoping for!
HH bring on the Beast!!



rc

And whats that micro-warbird on the left? Ah it's the e-flite p40, nevermind.

Originally Posted by Get Real

I agree 100%. Hopefully when the plane is in the hands of the masses the reviews from end users will be unbiased and fair. The concept looks good to me,not sure why balsa arfs are put on such a pedestal by some only considering the design material used for this plane alone.

+1 Bill!!!

Tim

Originally Posted by shoeler

I completely agree, if I pay that much I prefer balsa no foam.

Who says you have to spend $400?? That is for the BNF version..............there is a PNP version as well.

Don't need a battery pack? Don't need an extra charger? Don't need a rx? Then get the PNP version and save yourself a $100. I'm wondering how many people on here even new there was a PNP version.

http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...075#quickSpecs

Tim

Originally Posted by simon737

I think E-Flite have done a pretty good job with this one, I think it fills the gap between profile foamies and full on balsa 3D ships. Still easily repairable and looks like it fly's well and does most if not every 3D in the book.

Tim, will you be getting this one for review? If so, I look forward to it.

Simon,

I agree with your above comments. While it's true it is Quique on the sticks from what I can see in the video there doesn't seem to be a lot of excess stick wiggling or control surface corrections for the maneuvers he is flying in the video. The moments on this plane tell me it should fly precision and 3D fairly well and the stock power setup looks more than adequate for even the most power hunger pilot.

Not sure on the review thing Simon as the plane was just announced yesterday. Definitely looks like it would be a fun plane to review though.

Tim

I think it looks great and look forward to flying one!