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Old Dec 12, 2010, 05:49 PM
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bravo sx

sorry, but that debate?

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Old Dec 13, 2010, 12:59 AM
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Donaldsneffe tried a Zippy 240 as alternate battery. The conversion worked well, but it only gave one minute extra flight time. Perhaps a Hyperion 240 will work better, it has more power, and is better suited for heavy discharge.
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Old Dec 13, 2010, 01:27 AM
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I've decided that I'd very much like the Bravo SX as my first hobby grade heli, unfortunately I can't find that many retailers selling it, and harder still is finding a good price and international shipping.

I'm after the deluxe set (case, wall charger, extra battery) and the only two reasonable deals that I've found are:
  • A Main Hobbies: Cost of heli in deluxe kit $82.99 + shipping $48.89 total = $131.88 USD (EDIT: This is actually the Bravo III - I made a mistake)
  • Buzz Flyer: Cost of heli in deluxe kit $140.02 + shipping $59.15 total = $199.35 USD

I'd happily grab the A Main Hobbies deal but they only have the blue / white colour scheme which I don't like. I'd rather get the dark blue or camo version, which Buzz Flyer do have but $200 is a little steep and I could probably get a better heli for that price elsewhere.

If anyone sees a good deal from a place that ships internationally, please let me know.
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Old Dec 13, 2010, 01:41 AM
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Perhaps a Hyperion 240 will work better, it has more power, and is better suited for heavy discharge.
Checked it http://www.hoelleinshop.com/e-vendo....33%26p%3D36033

The Hyperion seems to be much heavier than the Zippy, 7 g to 5.3 g...
Anyway, I will try it when available (but not for 10 bucks).

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Old Dec 13, 2010, 02:13 AM
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Checked it http://www.hoelleinshop.com/e-vendo....33%26p%3D36033

The Hyperion seems to be much heavier than the Zippy, 7 g to 5.3 g...
Anyway, I will try it when available (but not for 10 bucks).

Walter
Ah, that extra weight is no good. And the price also doesn't help. The HK 150 seems to be the best battery, after correcting the tight fit. Let's hope HK will make a better mould when the current one wears out.

And speaking of improvements, I would like to see the following things on the Bravo SX 2, should it ever come:

- Gears with smaller teeth, to address the noise problem.
- Canopy that is easier to remove
- Stronger or longer skids to prevent the heli from tipping over backwards when landing
- Longer tail fin so tail rotor can't touch the ground when it tips over
- Navigation lights switch, might help a little with flight times or make them switch color when the battery gets low.
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Old Dec 13, 2010, 03:02 AM
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Hi Solo Pro,
ordered some Hyperion 240 for a cheaper price (3.something Euro).
We'll see, if it is really better.
Otherwise I can use them for other models.

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Old Dec 13, 2010, 03:09 AM
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[*]A Main Hobbies: Cost of heli in deluxe kit $82.99 + shipping $48.89 total = $131.88 USD
This is very cheap.
Here in Austria/Germany the sets (not deluxe, no charger, no case) are from 100 - 120 Euro (130 - 160 US$) without shipping.

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Old Dec 13, 2010, 03:10 AM
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- Navigation lights switch, might help a little with flight times or make them switch color when the battery gets low.
This should be easy - see the pic of the Bravo III landing skid I have posted - it has a switch.

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Old Dec 13, 2010, 03:43 AM
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This should be easy - see the pic of the Bravo III landing skid I have posted - it has a switch.

Walter
That would be possible, but the added weight of the switch and wires will shorten flight times even more perhaps than the lights do. I was thinking of an electronic switch, controlled from the TX. Even some cheap 3 channel coaxials have this nowadays...
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Old Dec 13, 2010, 06:50 AM
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Is the canopy from a Bravo SX interchangeable with one from a Bravo III? They look identical from what I can tell, just want to know for sure.
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Old Dec 13, 2010, 06:54 AM
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This is very cheap.
Here in Austria/Germany the sets (not deluxe, no charger, no case) are from 100 - 120 Euro (130 - 160 US$) without shipping.

Walter
I actually made a mistake, those figures are for a Bravo III and not a Bravo SX. So, $200 delivered is the cheapest I've found for the SX.
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Old Dec 13, 2010, 07:16 AM
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Donaldsneffe tried a Zippy 240 as alternate battery. The conversion worked well, but it only gave one minute extra flight time. Perhaps a Hyperion 240 will work better, it has more power, and is better suited for heavy discharge.
very well, I'm confused for a moment, as I follow several forums, I noticed the two threads,
very interesting, your idea to change the LED color when lipo is low.
strange that non they have put the switch lipo come bravoIII
congratulations for the work you are doing very interesting ..............
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Old Dec 13, 2010, 07:39 AM
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very well, I'm confused for a moment, as I follow several forums, I noticed the two threads,
very interesting, your idea to change the LED color when lipo is low.
strange that non they have put the switch lipo come bravoIII
congratulations for the work you are doing very interesting ..............
Yeah, it would be nice if the heli indicated a low battery this way. Now suddenly the tail starts turning, and the heli descends rather rapidly. I've had some unplanned landings this way already.

I think they left out the switch to save some weight. The scale fuselage already adds a lot, and if it gets even heavier flight times will get shorter.


Marconos, did you also try the Bravo SX tail on the Solo Pro? It should fit easily. I wonder if that will make it fly more like the Bravo SX, but without the short flight times and the extra motor noise...
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Old Dec 13, 2010, 09:19 AM
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Is the canopy from a Bravo SX interchangeable with one from a Bravo III? They look identical from what I can tell, just want to know for sure.
not totally.
The Bravo SX canopy has a different end of tail (open, with silicone), and four bulges at the top opening of the canopy (for swashplate connections), which the canopy of the Bravo III misses.
The bottom opening is also shlightly different (Bravo III little wider to back), and the Bravo III has a kind of cap, which the Bravo SX canopy misses.

Landing gears are interchangeable, but Bravo III has a 3-pin plug + switch, which the landing skid of the Bravo SX has not.

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Old Dec 13, 2010, 09:30 AM
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I actually made a mistake, those figures are for a Bravo III and not a Bravo SX. So, $200 delivered is the cheapest I've found for the SX.
guess, nearly everything is more expensive in Australia than here. Have been in NT in September and bought a Gaui starter for a friend as "good bye present" - it was about 30% more expensive than here.
I guess, micro deans were 4.50 AUD...

Nevertheless - we liked it (the Gaui starter is in the orange box in the back - we bought it two weeks later):



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