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Old Feb 15, 2013, 10:13 PM
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Yes, I was wondering about a BEC. Do the two parallel ESCs provide more security already?
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Old Feb 16, 2013, 05:07 AM
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In theory, if the BEC's are linear and not switch mode - which these are - the paralleling of them is acceptable and will result in some additional current capability. That's what I'm told.

I've gotten hundreds of flights on mine, all stock with flaps added, and had absolutely no problems. I did recently add a CF wing spar just for insurance. It's one of my favorite planes
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Old Feb 16, 2013, 09:03 AM
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That's what I was hoping to hear, minimal upgrades needed. I've got the servos for the flaps already although it sounds like most don't bother with them. A BEC isn't a must with all the servos and retracts? This will be my first plane with more than 4 channels.
Ok

I have added the flaps and the CF on the main wing. I have also put some fiberglass rebar tape under the tail wing along the length to reinforce it. Yesterday I flew her and did some loops and rolls. I lost her with the white clouds in the background for a good 10 seconds and thought it was over but she is so stable that she was flying the same straight line! I found her and resumed. Tip: don't have a heated conversation when flying!
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Old Feb 16, 2013, 06:26 PM
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I finally got my HK 480 1320's installed. (They took so long to get here I almost forgot I'd ordered them.) Wow! It was def worth the 50 bucks.
It took her from a pussy cat to a tiger. I can now turn her with authority rather than pucker when she was in a turn, and see the dreaded wing waggle.
Hi Nav,

Had to search you out since you're not posting about DF airliners these days.

That twin flight looks good but yer hammerin' it! Looks like some of my maiden flights. UH, why no landing vid?

I'm putting together a Freewing Mosquito right now. The LG doors are a PITA! I'm gettin' there slowly. Always wanted to try a twin and with electrics we have a reliable option.

Shoot me a PM if you feel like it. Lookin' forward to it.....

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Old Feb 16, 2013, 07:18 PM
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Has anyone glued the wing to the fuse? When mine went into the reeds after completely losing elevator, 3 out of the 4 bolt mounts ripped out. No other damage. I was lucky.

Thinking that since my car is big enough for transporting the plane fully assembled, might as well epoxy the wing to the fuse.

I suppose if I ever need to get at the wiring, I could remove a window from the top.

Any other downside I'm missing?

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Old Feb 19, 2013, 06:17 PM
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Has anyone glued the wing to the fuse? When mine went into the reeds after completely losing elevator, 3 out of the 4 bolt mounts ripped out. No other damage. I was lucky.

Thinking that since my car is big enough for transporting the plane fully assembled, might as well epoxy the wing to the fuse.

I suppose if I ever need to get at the wiring, I could remove a window from the top.

Any other downside I'm missing?

-Hawk
I'm not sure Hawk. I mean with the bolts taking most of the force, the damage seems somewhat minimal. With the wing glued on....another crash could possibly damage both the wing and fuselage. Just my two cents.
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Old Feb 19, 2013, 06:41 PM
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A special delivery came from UPS today! Some minor box damage, but no visible damage to any of the contents. I assembled the main components and hooked up the electronics to make sure everything works, and no problems found. Next step is to take it back apart and assemble it for real, with the required upgrades so it's ready for flight in a month or so.

Looking at the stark white plane has me thinking of how to make it special. Does paint hold up well on this foam, or are the vinyl decals a stronger option? With paint I know I can always touch it up and getting around the compound curves isn't a problem...
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Old Feb 19, 2013, 06:41 PM
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Picking up used non retract version this week-end...

can't wait to give it a go..
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Old Feb 19, 2013, 06:47 PM
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I'm painting mine now that I have flown it, and put a spar in it. Gonna use regular craft store paint, so foam doesn't get eaten up, fastkote works well to and is water base.
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Old Feb 19, 2013, 06:55 PM
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A special delivery came from UPS today! Some minor box damage, but no visible damage to any of the contents. I assembled the main components and hooked up the electronics to make sure everything works, and no problems found. Next step is to take it back apart and assemble it for real, with the required upgrades so it's ready for flight in a month or so.

Looking at the stark white plane has me thinking of how to make it special. Does paint hold up well on this foam, or are the vinyl decals a stronger option? With paint I know I can always touch it up and getting around the compound curves isn't a problem...
If I had it to do over again, and had the time, I would paint the trim instead of using the stickers. They don't conform well to the compound curves, no matter how many times I flatten them with my thumb.
I now understand how my mom must have felt trying to get my cowlick to stay flat!
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Old Feb 19, 2013, 09:25 PM
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A special delivery came from UPS today! Some minor box damage, but no visible damage to any of the contents. I assembled the main components and hooked up the electronics to make sure everything works, and no problems found. Next step is to take it back apart and assemble it for real, with the required upgrades so it's ready for flight in a month or so.

Looking at the stark white plane has me thinking of how to make it special. Does paint hold up well on this foam, or are the vinyl decals a stronger option? With paint I know I can always touch it up and getting around the compound curves isn't a problem...
I've only had mixed success painting these EPO airplanes. Paint just doesn't want to stick - which is why most models come with vinyl stickers. It's impossible, by my experience, to paint one color and then mask it with tape to apply overlapping colors. The mask tape pulls everything off. The paint also tends to peel, flake, and chip just by looking at it, especially on large areas that flex (wings). I have had fairly good luck with Krylon Fusion For Plastic spray paint. It will chip on you a little, but has been pretty durable by my experience. Again, though, forget overlapping colors that require mask tape over the first color.

I actually found the GC stickers to fit pretty well, with the exception of the wingtip tanks. You probably already know the trick, but I'll repeat it for other's edification: Spray a little soapy water on the airplane before you apply the stickers. It will allow you to re-position them and move them around to get them in the right place. Once you have them positioned, squeegee the water out from under the sticker with your finger, and let it dry. Works like a champ!
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I've painted a complete foam airplane with model masters enamel paint and I thin my paints with lacquer thinner. I used an airbrush so I do believe that makes a difference, I wouldn't recommend spraying a foam plane with rattle can lacquer paint. I've used rattle can enamel without any problems.
If you need to mask off an area take damp newspaper or paper towels and use them in place of the masking tape.
I've haven't had any issues with the paint flaking off. One of my painted planes has 2 years on the paint and other than normal hanger rash the paint has held up just fine.
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Old Feb 20, 2013, 06:50 AM
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I've only had mixed success painting these EPO airplanes. Paint just doesn't want to stick - which is why most models come with vinyl stickers. It's impossible, by my experience, to paint one color and then mask it with tape to apply overlapping colors. The mask tape pulls everything off. The paint also tends to peel, flake, and chip just by looking at it, especially on large areas that flex (wings). I have had fairly good luck with Krylon Fusion For Plastic spray paint. It will chip on you a little, but has been pretty durable by my experience. Again, though, forget overlapping colors that require mask tape over the first color.

I actually found the GC stickers to fit pretty well, with the exception of the wingtip tanks. You probably already know the trick, but I'll repeat it for other's edification: Spray a little soapy water on the airplane before you apply the stickers. It will allow you to re-position them and move them around to get them in the right place. Once you have them positioned, squeegee the water out from under the sticker with your finger, and let it dry. Works like a champ!
I've painted a few planes and pretty much have had your same experience. I used Krylon Short Cuts paint that's made for foam. Thought it would stick better. Wrong. Still chips & flakes off. Not sure what the solution is
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Old Feb 20, 2013, 01:13 PM
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Anybody care to share their DR/expo settings for both scale and sport flying? I'm setting up my ER9X and would like a good general baseline to start from. Also, any mix for elevator and/or rudder useful or is this plane really as easy to fly as people claim?
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Old Feb 20, 2013, 05:58 PM
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I've painted a few planes and pretty much have had your same experience. I used Krylon Short Cuts paint that's made for foam. Thought it would stick better. Wrong. Still chips & flakes off. Not sure what the solution is
I had good luck painting my HZ Super Cub by lightly sanding the entire surface (I think I used 320 grit wet sanded). My main intention was to smooth out the the little bumps that I assume are used to release the foam parts from their molds. The real benefit of the sanding though is increased adhesion of the paints. I haven't lost any paint on the sanded areas except during the learning process where I changed my masking technique from low-tack tape to damp newspaper. I used el-cheapo rattle cans from Home Depot. Rustoleum, I think.
The paint did little to hide the alligator skin effect, and probably accentuated it with the year of abuse that that poor plane has taken. There are thin cracks in the paint around the perimeters of the tiny foam pellets that make up the surface. A more flexible, latex paint might have aged better. I'll try latex next time.
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