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Old Sep 18, 2010, 12:25 PM
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Can New Stuff be colored on a ink jet printer

Who's willing to try running new stuff through a ink jet printer to test if it will work, I would do it but I don't have any NS, from all the input on other threads it would be best to print on the backside or the glue side, mirror or reverse, I'm going to be ordering some NS next week and will try it out, it should be like printing on transparentcy sheets I would believe,
how about some tests guy's and see what works.

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Old Sep 18, 2010, 01:25 PM
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I can give that a try Kevin,

I can run a 8x14 sheet of 5mil through my printer, although 3mil might be a better choice. Just want to check the surface temperature of a printer sheet of paper first, to verify that the NS won't be bonded to the roller
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Old Sep 18, 2010, 08:14 PM
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On a designjet style printer maybe....
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Old Sep 19, 2010, 01:02 PM
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So....won't you be printing on the glue side and messing that up?
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Old Sep 19, 2010, 03:56 PM
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inkjet ink is water based and unless you seal it with something it smears or melts as soon as you touch it or get it moist.
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Old Sep 19, 2010, 10:08 PM
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That shouldn't be an issue if it is printed on the adhesive side. The only worry is the adhesive getting messed up. If you do put it on the outside, you could always put a coat of clear over it to seal it up.
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Old Sep 19, 2010, 11:40 PM
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Do not do this on a laser printer

I used to work at HP designing inkjet printers (copiers actually).

They can print on mylar, no problem. Sometimes there is a setting in the printer driver to select the paper type for mylar. It prints a bit less ink and increases the dry time. (Otherwise it delivers you a piece of media with ink puddling on it and not dry).

DO NOT PUT NS THRU A LASERPRINTER! A laser printer has a "fuser" roller that basically melts the toner onto the media. I imagine that the fuser roller (or the roller against it) will get all gummed up and jammed if you put NS thru it.

Ink jet printer rollers are not heated and should not have this problem.

I don't work there anymore, otherwise I could run some "engineering experiments" on all kinds of printers with NS...

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Old Sep 20, 2010, 06:31 AM
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How do you reakon that ink on the mylar would go sticking to the epoxy if bagging a wing (similar to painting the mylars before bagging)?
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Old Sep 21, 2010, 09:09 PM
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OK guy's, think of it as a T-shirt transfer without the backing paper, the adhesive on T-shirt transfers allow the ink to print on it but using a lower amount of ink letting the adhesive to penetrate the ink and creating a bond to the material when ironed, basically it would be the same process on the NS material, maybe using the T-shirt transfer setting would be the best bet on the printing preferrence menu,
It's worth a try.

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Old Sep 21, 2010, 11:45 PM
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It didn't work for me. I tried on a Cannon 600 and the ink tends to bead up on the adhesive leving blurred edges.:-(
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Old Sep 22, 2010, 01:24 AM
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The problem is both sides of NS are plastic, and the adhesive side just melts
at a lower temperature. The adhesive side is pure hot melt glue, and bonds mechanically
not chemically, so almost nothing wants to stick to it cold. Inks generally rely on solvents
or dyes to get into whatever material you're using them on, and neither will put
a dent in NS adhesive. I've soaked NS adhesive in every solvent I've got, and
nothing will dissolve it.

ian
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